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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I was really excited to see how we would employ all that speed and skill we have at the WR, RB and TE positions. Against Atlanta we employed the 5 wide, empty look 9 times. Brees missed Graham on the ...

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Old 09-14-2013, 10:08 AM   #1
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I was really excited to see how we would employ all that speed and skill we have at the WR, RB and TE positions.
Against Atlanta we employed the 5 wide, empty look 9 times.
Brees missed Graham on the first play, because Atlanta applied quick pressure.
But the set was lethal the rest of the way.
All in all, Brees was 7 of 9 when working out of the empty set.
7 of 9 for 168 yards.

Seems like Payton found a quick balance to using the formation
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I loved it, anxious to see all the wrinkles Payton has come up with in utilizing this awesome formation
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Empty backfield puts intense pressure on the O-line to hold up.

I hope they're up to the task.
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All in all, Brees was 7 of 9 when working out of the empty set...for 168 yards.
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
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Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! The run game kept the Falcons honest and whilst it wasn't overly affective in a net yard gain perspective, it completely opened up the field at times.

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
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Empty backfield puts intense pressure on the O-line to hold up.

I hope they're up to the task.
It does leave Brees exposed to hits. Were they be sacks, pushes, or hits. 5 on though gains a lot of yards. Risky!!
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Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
Watch for the run... no RB in the backfield. Got a good laugh out of that.

The run helps the PA when in heavy formations. I hope SP doesn't get too carried away with trying to run the ball. Keeping the D honest is great but at some point you have to stick with the passing game when we are running for 2.5 YPC. This will always be a passing team, we just need a running game slightly above average for some type of balance.
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Watch for the run... no RB in the backfield. Got a good laugh out of that.

The run helps the PA when in heavy formations. I hope SP doesn't get too carried away with trying to run the ball. Keeping the D honest is great but at some point you have to stick with the passing game when we are running for 2.5 YPC. This will always be a passing team, we just need a running game slightly above average for some type of balance.
Ohhhh I understand keeping them honest with a RB in the backfield... It's that whole absence of a RB keeping then honest that has be a little confused.
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Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
Personnel Changes; Falcons were late or missed in their counter moves...
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