Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable?

iceshack149 · 06-09-2014, 01:27 AM

If predictable breaks as many records as this team has broken over the last few years, give me predictable.

dizzle88 · 06-09-2014, 04:49 AM

Our offense gets predictable in critical situations, I'm talking 3rd and short etc

based on the personell payton brings on, I can tell what the play will be so other teams definitely can

Michigan_SF · 06-09-2014, 07:38 AM

Isn't it predictable the Saints are going to score a lot of points?

halloween 65 · 06-09-2014, 08:04 AM

Alot of teams have set their D up to shut down our pass happy O.We are way to predictable in our O when we run certain packages. With Sproles not being here it should tone down the screen some. I still would let Graham walk for a more traditional TE and run the ball more. I feel we should be more of a play-action O over a pass happy O, 7 days a week 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If there is a year for a UDFA to step up I feel O-lineman would be the spot.

Audiotom · 06-09-2014, 08:47 AM

the Saints were ruling the NFL in 2010,2011 with screen plays and options

other teams took notice and adjusted their formation to make sure the plays didn't develop

how many screen plays last year netted no yac? a lot

hagan714 · 06-09-2014, 08:58 AM

want to be unpredictable ???????????????

establish a consistent run game. 100+ yards/game for 16 games

without it the unpredictable becomes predictable

jeanpierre · 06-09-2014, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

the Saints were ruling the NFL in 2010,2011 with screen plays and options

other teams took notice and adjusted their formation to make sure the plays didn't develop

how many screen plays last year netted no yac? a lot

So another question to ask was "Have the Saints Lost Their Ability To Make Adjustments?!?"

It sure did seem we were slow to make adjustments at times...

Hindsight is easy, but it'd been nice had the Saints gone hurryup on offense against the Seahacks, not allowing Seattle to keep rotating fresh pass rushers...

The Saints had some success in hurryup, but I'm not sure how much of that was leading, late-game effort and how much was effectiveness...

That's why I'd like to see Saints limit opponents ability to rotate defenders earlier in games with the quicker pace...

hagan714 · 06-09-2014, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So another question to ask was "Have the Saints Lost Their Ability To Make Adjustments?!?"

It sure did seem we were slow to make adjustments at times...

Hindsight is easy, but it'd been nice had the Saints gone hurryup on offense against the Seahacks, not allowing Seattle to keep rotating fresh pass rushers...

The Saints had some success in hurryup, but I'm not sure how much of that was leading, late-game effort and how much was effectiveness...

That's why I'd like to see Saints limit opponents ability to rotate defenders earlier in games with the quicker pace...

I think a lot of this stems from all the new faces at WR and RB IMO. Moore Colston and Graham hurt or taking out of a game by the defense. Then PT banged up at times put the depth of this team at center stage. Stills can only do so much as a primary WR.

So I still believe Drew did not have faith in most of them last year to run a no huddle or a hurry up. He had was worried about the LT blowing his assignment and the RB picking up the defender i bet. much less the WR or TE being were they should be.

By seasons end Drew had to be hearing foot steps after the pounding he took.

this offense needs a lot reps this off season

Audiotom · 06-09-2014, 09:19 AM

I love this line

Looking to catch the Seahawks by surprise, the Saints used running back Mark Ingram for the first of their four screen plays. The Seahawks defense clearly was not expecting it, as the play fake and blocking setup both worked well. Unfortunately, further endearing himself to Saints fans who already adore him, Ingram dropped Brees' pass with blockers in front of him and a potential big gain ahead.

endearing indeed

Seer1 · 06-09-2014, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So another question to ask was "Have the Saints Lost Their Ability To Make Adjustments?!?"

It sure did seem we were slow to make adjustments at times...

Hindsight is easy, but it'd been nice had the Saints gone hurryup on offense against the Seahacks, not allowing Seattle to keep rotating fresh pass rushers...

The Saints had some success in hurryup, but I'm not sure how much of that was leading, late-game effort and how much was effectiveness...

That's why I'd like to see Saints limit opponents ability to rotate defenders earlier in games with the quicker pace...

Drew's always seemed great in the hurry up, but like Hagan's pointing out there were some trust and OL issues there.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by jeanpierre So another question to ask was "Have the Saints Lost Their Ability To Make Adjustments?!?" It sure did seem we were slow to make adjustments at times... Hindsight is easy, but it'd been nice had the Saints gone hurryup on offense against the Seahacks, not allowing Seattle to keep rotating fresh pass rushers... The Saints had some success in hurryup, but I'm not sure how much of that was leading, late-game effort and how much was effectiveness... That's why I'd like to see Saints limit opponents ability to rotate defenders earlier in games with the quicker pace... I think a lot of this stems from all the new faces at WR and RB IMO. Moore Colston and Graham hurt or taking out of a game by the defense. Then PT banged up at times put the depth of this team at center stage. Stills can only do so much as a primary WR. So I still believe Drew did not have faith in most of them last year to run a no huddle or a hurry up. He had was worried about the LT blowing his assignment and the RB picking up the defender i bet. much less the WR or TE being were they should be. By seasons end Drew had to be hearing foot steps after the pounding he took. this offense needs a lot reps this off season Rugby Saint II and Seer1 like this.
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06-09-2014, 09:19 AM	#19
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? I love this line Looking to catch the Seahawks by surprise, the Saints used running back Mark Ingram for the first of their four screen plays. The Seahawks defense clearly was not expecting it, as the play fake and blocking setup both worked well. Unfortunately, further endearing himself to Saints fans who already adore him, Ingram dropped Brees' pass with blockers in front of him and a potential big gain ahead. endearing indeed hagan714, Rugby Saint II and Seer1 like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by jeanpierre So another question to ask was "Have the Saints Lost Their Ability To Make Adjustments?!?" It sure did seem we were slow to make adjustments at times... Hindsight is easy, but it'd been nice had the Saints gone hurryup on offense against the Seahacks, not allowing Seattle to keep rotating fresh pass rushers... The Saints had some success in hurryup, but I'm not sure how much of that was leading, late-game effort and how much was effectiveness... That's why I'd like to see Saints limit opponents ability to rotate defenders earlier in games with the quicker pace... Drew's always seemed great in the hurry up, but like Hagan's pointing out there were some trust and OL issues there.

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