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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly. Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past. Payton usually has the guys ...

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Old 10-04-2014, 09:36 AM   #11
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12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.
Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:34 AM   #12
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Baby steps, Walk before you can run. But thats why we have preseason.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:15 AM   #13
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This excerpt from the article - "Payton was mentored by Bill Parcells, who wasn’t credited with inventing any great offensive or defensive innovations. The Tuna had talented teams, but not historically so. Parcells won a lot of games in a lot of places by making football look pretty simple. He took away what other teams did well. His teams didn’t make mistakes to kill themselves. They were balanced and poised." - really encapsulates the situation; the team gets away from it's balance on offense, seems to force things rather than take what the opposition gives 'em, and gets too cute at times...

These are things that Payton has too address; remember reading Ryan saying his defensive schemes, reads, et al may have gotten too complicated...
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"Get back to basics" Famous last words!!
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Keep it simple stupid
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Payton is ultimately responsible.........it would be better if our draft picks would pan out.
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Old 10-06-2014, 02:34 PM   #17
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Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.
I have to respectfully disagree. The points the author brought up are valid.

Simply put, if the defense can put together a single 3rd down play that is equivalent to Juniors safety each drive, then the saints would have a lot less to worry about.

The yards both on the ground and in the air that the defense is giving up is a function of not pressuring the QB and not getting off the field on 3rd down.

And honestly just like yesterday, the offense doesn't finish drives and has too too too too too (is that enough) many turnovers.

The record is clear, when the offense doesn't turn over the ball, we win.

So it's actually keeping it simple. Pressure the opposing QB by any means and don't turn the ball over.

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12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.
We don't need to win 12 games. We need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. As this wikipedia entry points out:

National Football League playoffs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there have been instances where the #6 seed has won it all.

I would advise after 5 games putting in lofty requirements for the season. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

The goal always has been, and always should be, getting to the playoffs and getting better. If that means getting in as a 10-6 division winner, then so be it.
Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.
Agreed. And just keeping it simple. Defense needs to get off the field. Offense needs to not give the ball away. That would be enough to beat all but the most elite teams in this league.

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I'm quickly losing confidence in Payton's play calling. He's becoming the most predictable coach in the league.
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