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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno 3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at ...

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Old 12-27-2014, 11:07 AM   #11
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3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions.
The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them. They had 5 chances to draft a Center and they passed on all of them. This time around there are no if's, ands or butts about it, they need to draft a Center. As for the defense, they got their butts handed to them and rightfully so. Some of them ate the cheese and got what they deserved. They need to keep their mouths shut and let their playing do the talking. Could some of the positions be upgraded? Absolutely. Hopefully this season taught them a lesson.
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The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them.
Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:38 PM   #13
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Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door
That's all well and good but we still need someone to back him up, and the other guy on the roster that's backup center isn't gonna cut it. I forget his name.
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There is no one thing I can put my finger on why this season tanked so badly. Everyone from bng was pretty much spot on about their analysis. I love this thread.

It started last season with losing Greer......we never recovered. And going into this season with P Roblem and White competing against Bailey and a raw draft pick for our starting #2 CB position was foolish. We don't develop defensive players well.

In the offseason we over reached with Byrd and Bailey then let veteran leadership go.

There was a pitiful attempt at fixing the center position. No attempt to fix the ILB'ers.....and an obvious bad evaluation of talent across the board.

The draft netted a good player that wound up injured but it cost us an additional third round draft pick. Besides that I have not seen much from this years draft. Too many reaches that didn't pan out.

We started the grueling training camp at the hell hole called Greenbriar. The team started slowly after that.

Drew tore his oblique and he never recovered totally from that. His timing has been off every since(scary thing is the whole team chemistry was off after that too). Even at OTA's we started losing players and then we started losing key players at an alarming rate.

We didn't upgrade the O-line and it showed that we have been draft heavy defensively because of the lack of depth.

No fresh ideas from any coaches.

The locker room died.

Too many people feeling over confident.............including everyone from players to FO.

Hydrate hydrate hydrate but stop drinking the damn Kool-Aid!

More injuries!
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:20 PM   #15
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I think for Brees it was that Vikings game when Munnerlyn flipped him on his head. Things were never right after that game.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:02 PM   #16
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We had a major can of woopass poured on us in every game in the trenches!!!!!!!!!! While I agree with your assessment of players playing with injuries, every team came make that claim. That is also another reason Sean doesn't discuss injuries. Every team in the playoffs this year has had to deal injuries. We are not a playoff team for 3 reasons, none have to do with injuries that other teams haven't dealt with. 1) Unable to create take aways. 2) No pressure on opposition QB"s; as a result opposing teams making 3rd and long. 3) Not protecting Drew.
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Good reasons all. personally I think the main reasons were

1. The D-line regressed significantly, giving opposing QB's all day to throw. I think the coaches thought that would be one area that actually improved over last year, but it failed miserably. No name QB's picked us apart all year.

2. The plan for the #2 CB spot backfired. We though Champ had another year in him, and if not either PRob or White would step up and perform well. It didn't happen. Combine that with reason 1 above and you have the recipe for disaster we saw this year. It was fugly.

3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions.
Excellent observations!
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While I was in Metarie visiting, I decided to attend the early morning training camp which was open to the public however 10 minutes prior to the start we were told it had been cancelled due to weather

It was down hill from there on out.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:26 PM   #20
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Here's something to think about. In the last 3 years we have had 2 loosing seasons and we haven't won the division since 2011. Is the problem deeper than we think?
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