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Old 07-26-2015, 07:22 AM   #1
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Last summer, the Saints headed to West Virginia with dreams of reaching the Super Bowl. They didnít even make the playoffs. Now, after an offseason full of turnover, they begin training camp with new objectives, new faces ... and many questions.
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IF Nick Toon, Seantavius Jones or Brandon Coleman emerge into viable playmakers, the Saints will have a solid corps of receivers who can help gloss over the losses of Jimmy Graham and Kenny Stills. Coach Sean Payton has been bullish about the potential of these players. You have to believe thereís a reason for that confidence.
IF NOT, well ... itís hard to imagine that everyone from this group will disappoint or fail to step up to the challenge. But if that happens, then itís the doomsday scenario in which Drew Brees has few viable options and the offense will stall to some degree.
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IF Delvin Breaux is as good as advertised, then New Orleans might have pulled off one of the greater heists of the offseason by pulling the cornerback out of the CFL. His presence would give the Saints great depth at cornerback and a good amount of competition at this position.
IF NOT, the Saints still have Keenan Lewis and Brandon Browner at the top of the depth chart, as well as rookies P.J. Williams and Damian Swann and last yearís second-round pick, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, at the position. Thereís a good mix of players in there, but itís better if Breaux lives up to the hype.


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Old 07-26-2015, 07:35 AM   #2
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Ok only thing i would add is this

If Ingram can stay healthy and prove, even with the time missed with injury, was not a fluke then the saints will be sitting pretty good

IF NOT Then we find out if Robinson is the second coming of Curtis James Martin, Jr.. Which I have not seen to date. That leaves Spiller to do the between tackle run which if history holds up, he wont. Then once again it will all rest on Drew's arm each and every time he takes to the field.

That is not what any NFL teams wants their QB to go through. Even the best ever fold under the pressure to score each and every play. Add in all the question marks at WR, on defense and this could turn into a long year.
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Re: Camp 2015: Fortunes of the team lie among a series of what-ifs

True, there are question marks this season. But no more than last year IMO.

Barring injury, this team has answered more of their questions than created new ones.
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Old 07-26-2015, 08:38 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
True, there are question marks this season. But no more than last year IMO.

Barring injury, this team has answered more of their questions than created new ones.
One question mark missing. saints super bowl material? that kool aid pond ran dry so I am hyped.
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Re: Camp 2015: Fortunes of the team lie among a series of what-ifs

IF The season starts.
MAYBE These type articles will stop...
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
IF The season starts.
MAYBE These type articles will stop...
I thought it was a decent article going into training camp. At least it's not another "Brees in decline" or "How will the Saints recover from losing Graham".

Put that in bold because we dealt Graham for upgrades on offense AND defense.
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One question mark missing. saints super bowl material? that kool aid pond ran dry so I am hyped.
That answer has three parts IMO.

1) Problem players/attitudes are gone
2) Position upgrades (some rookies) have been made
3) New staff, from coaches to scouts - all will make an impact


#1 reason or defense will succeed - Dennis Allen (plus) Rob Ryan
#1 reason our offense will succeed - O line, controlling the LOS

#1 reason or defense will fail - lack of pressure on the QB
#1 reason our offense will fail - red zone offense
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Re: Camp 2015: Fortunes of the team lie among a series of what-ifs

Back in 2009 the Saints didn't have any really great CB. Greer was really good but I think it would be a stretch to call him great. Tracy Porter had a good year, he was good for us but what has he done since?

I'm not really worried about our secondary since Dennis Allen is back. I think we will see a lot more production from both the S and CB positions this year.
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I'm not really worried about our secondary since Dennis Allen is back. I think we will see a lot more production from both the S and CB positions this year.
+1. I think this (cornerback) will be the most intriguing battle in all of training camp.
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Re: Camp 2015: Fortunes of the team lie among a series of what-ifs

If Ingram can stay healthy and prove, even with the time missed with injury, was not a fluke then the saints will be sitting pretty good

IF NOT Then we find out if Robinson is the second coming of Curtis James Martin, Jr.. Which I have not seen to date. That leaves Spiller to do the between tackle run which if history holds up, he wont. Then once again it will all rest on Drew's arm each and every time he takes to the field.

That is not what any NFL teams wants their QB to go through. Even the best ever fold under the pressure to score each and every play. Add in all the question marks at WR, on defense and this could turn into a long year.

It could but it won't. Who Dat!

Edit: However, It should be longer with all the additional post season games that we'll be playing!


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