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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think we could have done better than RR, he's not horrible but I do think we could have found someone with more stripes on their shoulder. The offense is bad, really bad. Colston needs to sit, he's killing the ...

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Old 10-11-2015, 09:11 PM   #41
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Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR

I think we could have done better than RR, he's not horrible but I do think we could have found someone with more stripes on their shoulder. The offense is bad, really bad. Colston needs to sit, he's killing the offense. I don't know what happened to him but he can no longer catch footballs with any consistency. The only thing consistent now is that he he drops balls. One again today, right on the money, nope drop. And Cooks, for a 1st round he looks lost. Can't get open most of the time, more often than not short of the marker. We have 2 WR's that have little to no impact on the game.
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Old 10-11-2015, 09:54 PM   #42
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its time we need to put ingram on the trade block, lots of running backs went down today, its a way to get a W.R. or a blocking tackle or even a nfl caliber T.E, please . I know I know its a long season and we need healthy backs, well throw that out the freakin window, we have K. ROB. that s a little bomb waiting to go off all he needs is snaps and more snaps he can pound a defense better than ingram, he needs a hole to gain yards KRob makes people pay. its just my opinion gents, damn we need serious regroup. and start over. payton lost his girl friend looks like, rob ryan belly shifted right and all his defense left.

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This is nothing new at all. Our D has suffered for years. Johnson, Vitt, Allen, any DC that has to be stuck with these guys will get the same results. It's like ground hog day for far to many years but until Payton gets tired of these bums or fired thats what we get, an underachieving D that has good enough talent on it to be in the mid teens. I've said it for a long time.
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Old 10-12-2015, 01:55 AM   #44
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bahahahahaha, first of all, drew got hurt in the tampa game. in the very first quarter, that was the only game he was throwing ducks. he was getting hit every frigan other play against tampa. then he sat for the panties game and then there was one other game against dallas. the line wasnt great in that game either. they have been terrible all year. the best game they had was the panties and dallas games, and they werent great in the cowboys game. you have been on your stupid agenda for weeks now. what gets old is your pathetic agenda. this was a post about rr, how the **** do you find a way to bring drew into it? because you have an agenda.
You need to grow the hell up, man. You lack basic perspective on anything I'm talking about to hold an argument, and then you act like a freaking punk on top of it.

I have no agenda. I have a point with facts to back it up. I'm not the only one who can see that Drew has been throwing ducks all year. The injury only made it worse. He was coming up short on passes against Arizona, and it he was doing a lot of that last year aswell.

How did I get on the topic of Drew? If you had followed any of the conversation, you would have known why. You started a thread about defense on a day when EVERYBODY sucked, and somebody wanted to complain about that and say that he was tired of people always blaming the defense. I defended YOUR POINT by saying there is no way you can make any excuses for this defense after that performance, and also that no one ever said the offense was blameless.

Which brought me to my points, where I called out Drew, the offensive line, and the fact that we only have two receivers who are worth anything. Fair enough, right? No, not for you apparently.

The only thing I agree with you (partially) on is that the O-line hasn't played well in any game. Their biggest problem is they can't run block at all. Strief's side is the one that can't pass block. But that's the point... McCown hadn't started a game in years, had to play behind a suspect O-line just like Drew, yet he made all the throws except for his very last pass. He got the ball out quick, which is one way that you mask line problems, and he stepped up in the pocket and bought time when things broke down. If he can do that, and Drew can't do any better then complete 50% of his passes when he isn't throwing 2 yard passes, then he is clearly a struggling QB.

I've been critical of anyone who has warranted criticism. I don't care if that's popular with you or anyone else. But I know for a fact I'm not in the minority.

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Old 10-12-2015, 02:01 AM   #45
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Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR

Take the emotions out of it.

You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense.

Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0.
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Old 10-12-2015, 02:20 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
Take the emotions out of it.

You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense.

Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0.
Sure they made those plays early on, and it was exciting considering we hadn't intercepted a pass all year, but it didn't change the fact that they were getting gashed. The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless.

I thought Breaux played a lot better, and when Lewis was in there he looked alright. The problem is we give up almost everything right down the middle of the field. Rookies or no rookies, it shouldn't look that easy against us. Rob has a certain reputation that preceded these struggles the last two years. I can't give him a pass.

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Old 10-12-2015, 04:09 AM   #47
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Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR

While I don't think it's RR's fault that the D isn't delivering... I don't see any harm in shaking things up by replacing him with somebody else outside of the organization.

I'd love to see them replace some of the positional coaches as well, and whoever would come in should have complete freedom to choose his assistants.


If anything it would serve as getting a jump start on next year and give more time to implement a new defensive scheme while the offense struggles on the other side of the ball anyways.
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
It's the scheme and coaching, not the players. This team has far more talent than any other year defensively yet they suck. Look to the coaching before you look to the players because every single player is playing the same and they all don't suck that bad; which leads to why coaching is the answer.
I agree fully. We have Byrd and a 24 year old Vaccaro ho is super talentend but not used right. Breux is raw but getting there. Lewis back helps.
I see improvement from the defence every week but its damn hard to play D when the offence turns the ball over three times giving the Eagles O good field position. It doesn't help when the newly signed punter shanks the ball giving the Eagles great field position.

What a lot of people here seems to forget is that football is a team game. Its never only the offence, defence or the special teams that is the problem. If one unit plays poorly it will have an impact on the others.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:23 AM   #49
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Yes, it's a team game. 519 yards doesn't lie. The defense was bad from the start, as was the offense. I don't know how this could be considered an improving unit in anyone's eyes.
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Yes, it's a team game. 519 yards doesn't lie. The defense was bad from the start, as was the offense. I don't know how this could be considered an improving unit in anyone's eyes.
I look at all the players individually, thats where there is improvement. I'm just waiting for it all to click.
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