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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Disagree Jordan Jenkins Anthony Kikaha Lewis Swann Breaux Bush Byrd Ellerbe Hawthorne And I'd even say to a lesser extent... KWilliams Richardson Davison Edebali Vaccaro And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and ...

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Old 11-19-2015, 12:48 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Disagree

Jordan
Jenkins
Anthony
Kikaha
Lewis
Swann
Breaux
Bush
Byrd
Ellerbe
Hawthorne

And I'd even say to a lesser extent...
KWilliams
Richardson
Davison
Edebali
Vaccaro

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.
I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:42 AM   #52
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Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Well wonder where Rob Ryan will show up next?
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I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust
Strange to think that Vaccaro has been around the ball more than a 56 million dollar "Ball Hawk"
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

I thought Foster was released in the off-season.
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Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?
Its simple really, if Browner is in zone, he is screwed. The guy is slow. His "supposed" strength was his ability to jam a receiver at the line and throw them off there route. I haven't seen much of this but is it his fault or RR for the way he was being told to play?
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I wish the best for the dude. after his first year I really thought it was a perfect fit. I was wrong. I still feel horrible wishing for someone to lose their job.
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Originally Posted by Audiotom View Post
I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust
Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position .
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Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position .
If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.
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If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.
I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.
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I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.
No, but investing as we did when even Bills fans were laughing at us seems pretty evident now...

And we've had way too many gaffes vs successes in free agency these past few seasons...
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