Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought

Utah_Saint · 04-29-2017, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Why pass on Malik Mcdowell @ 32 to draft a tackle that probably would have been there for us in the 2nd round.....Trey from FAU we waited for a PR but hopped on the O-linemen early...they must really think we are solidified at DE

I don't think Ramczyk woulda been there at 42. Packers, Seahawks, Jags, and Cardinals desperately needed Oline help.

Rell&Gold · 04-29-2017, 11:26 AM

Maybe some of the picks aren't as bad as they look, but it's no denying we missed on some serious talent

Rugby Saint II · 04-29-2017, 11:27 AM

Bloody Mary's are good for hangovers.

Seer1 · 04-29-2017, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Bloody Mary's are good.

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voodooido · 04-29-2017, 12:52 PM

Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured. Cadet just resigned and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. AP just signed a 2 yr deal and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trad him aft r his best season to get the max?

K Major · 04-29-2017, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? Cadet just resigned and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. AP just signed a 2 yr deal and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trad him aft r his best season to get the max?

Marcus Murphy ... I think he has to have a stellar training camp and pre season if he intends to make the final 53.

voodooido · 04-29-2017, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Marcus Murphy ... I think he has to have a stellar training camp and pre season if he intends to make the final 53.

I forgot about him. That makes 7 in the backfield.

|Mitch| · 04-29-2017, 01:18 PM

I can damn near assure y'all one thing. Kamara is a lock to make the team; giving up next years 2nd round pick, he better be!

AsylumGuido · 04-29-2017, 01:34 PM

Ingram is going nowhere. Murphy and Cadet just became completely expendable. They each had their chances to fit the Sproles/Bush position and failed. They are immediately made obsolete with the addition of Kamara.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-29-2017, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out?

Let's pick this apart one at a time. The answer to the first question is Murphy and Cadet. The Joker RB role was upgraded with the pick.

MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured.

Ingram played 16 games last season. The only injury report was a concussion and a toe after the Panther's game in November. He played the next week against the Lions. So how exactly is that "staying injured"?

Cadet just resigned

A one year vet minimum contract with $80K in guaranteed money. I'm sure Loomis can find that kind of change in his couch if Cadet needed to be cut.

and Lassco is only in his 2nd year.

Lasco's contract is worth less than Cadet's. Also I believe that Lasco is still eligible for the practice squad.

AP just signed a 2 yr deal

No. AP signed a one year deal and a one year team option that has no guaranteed money. If it doesn't work out AP can be let go next offseason and cost the team exactly $0 additional dollars.

and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft.

A top 4 back with a 2nd round grade, in the 3rd round, with the purpose of upgrading Cadet.

Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trade him aft r his best season to get the max?

Not smart at all. BTW I see what you did there with MIA. Funny. Ingram is a productive back in the Saints offense at very reasonable contract numbers ($4 million/year). As you pointed out, the guy just had his best season.

I don't see why anyone would think it smart to get rid of your most productive back and leave an old geezer and a rookie in his place.

As Ingram himself pointed out, RBs sharing the carries is a Payton Saints' offensive hallmark. So having 4,5, or even 6 backs isn't the least bit out of the ordinary.

Everyone should read it for what it is: Cadet isn't Sproles or Bush. Kamara might be. The Joker is the kid's slot to take. Nothing more. Nothing less.

SFIAH

04-29-2017, 01:50 PM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Why pass on Malik Mcdowell @ 32 to draft a tackle that probably would have been there for us in the 2nd round.....Trey from FAU we waited for a PR but hopped on the O-linemen early...they must really think we are solidified at DE I don't think Ramczyk woulda been there at 42. Packers, Seahawks, Jags, and Cardinals desperately needed Oline help.

04-29-2017, 11:26 AM	#2
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured. Cadet just resigned and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. AP just signed a 2 yr deal and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trad him aft r his best season to get the max?
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,070 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Originally Posted by voodooido Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? Cadet just resigned and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. AP just signed a 2 yr deal and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trad him aft r his best season to get the max? Marcus Murphy ... I think he has to have a stellar training camp and pre season if he intends to make the final 53. SmashMouth likes this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Originally Posted by K Major Marcus Murphy ... I think he has to have a stellar training camp and pre season if he intends to make the final 53. I forgot about him. That makes 7 in the backfield.
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04-29-2017, 01:18 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought I can damn near assure y'all one thing. Kamara is a lock to make the team; giving up next years 2nd round pick, he better be!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Ingram is going nowhere. Murphy and Cadet just became completely expendable. They each had their chances to fit the Sproles/Bush position and failed. They are immediately made obsolete with the addition of Kamara. SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand and \|Mitch\| like this.

04-29-2017, 05:00 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought Originally Posted by voodooido Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? Let's pick this apart one at a time. The answer to the first question is Murphy and Cadet. The Joker RB role was upgraded with the pick. MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured. Ingram played 16 games last season. The only injury report was a concussion and a toe after the Panther's game in November. He played the next week against the Lions. So how exactly is that "staying injured"? Cadet just resigned A one year vet minimum contract with $80K in guaranteed money. I'm sure Loomis can find that kind of change in his couch if Cadet needed to be cut. and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. Lasco's contract is worth less than Cadet's. Also I believe that Lasco is still eligible for the practice squad. AP just signed a 2 yr deal No. AP signed a one year deal and a one year team option that has no guaranteed money. If it doesn't work out AP can be let go next offseason and cost the team exactly $0 additional dollars. and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. A top 4 back with a 2nd round grade, in the 3rd round, with the purpose of upgrading Cadet. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trade him aft r his best season to get the max? Not smart at all. BTW I see what you did there with MIA. Funny. Ingram is a productive back in the Saints offense at very reasonable contract numbers ($4 million/year). As you pointed out, the guy just had his best season. I don't see why anyone would think it smart to get rid of your most productive back and leave an old geezer and a rookie in his place. As Ingram himself pointed out, RBs sharing the carries is a Payton Saints' offensive hallmark. So having 4,5, or even 6 backs isn't the least bit out of the ordinary. Everyone should read it for what it is: Cadet isn't Sproles or Bush. Kamara might be. The Joker is the kid's slot to take. Nothing more. Nothing less. SFIAH jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.
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