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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Payton did not model our offense after Seattle's so he must not have been as obsessed as you propose. There is a term that has been used in the NFL for a long time, before Payton was a HC, "copy ...

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Old 05-18-2017, 09:15 AM   #21
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Payton did not model our offense after Seattle's so he must not have been as obsessed as you propose. There is a term that has been used in the NFL for a long time, before Payton was a HC, "copy cat league." If your defense stinks you look at defenses that do not stink and try to model them to succeed. That's not obsessing, that's being wise. Rob Ryan was the one who took the 4th ranked D and decided to "get funky" with it and it blew up in his face.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:41 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by jnormand View Post
Whoa man. Chill out. His opinion (much like your own) is exactly that. His.

There will always be division. People have different opinions.

It's like debate. Back your opinion up with facts. The more facts, the less bs, the better you sell it.

Back your opinion up with more "opinion" or nonsense, it looks like bs.

Will you need to Chill.
What REALLY pisses him off is that I actually use facts quite often.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:06 AM   #23
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My offer for a Xanax includes you too. It is my chill pill when the edge is too much. You are too much.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:58 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
I posted this because of the Ingram crap which is just another example of so much division on the forum. I mean if I ever saw Asylum I would kick his a$$ that's how much I hate that poster. He instigated this to begin with.

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Only way to settle this is in the squared circle, in a steel-cage match, weapons allowed. Bring back Jimmy Hart and Bobby the Brain Heenan to work the corners, or maybe Classy Freddie Blassie
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:11 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
Repeat after me, I will not click on a WillSaints81 thread, I will not....

Although, this one is irresistibly over the top with the entire Saints' AND Saints fans' infrastructures shattered probably forever and all due to one poster on Black&Gold! Just because that damned head coach was just trying to get our defense off of the ocean floor. What was he thinking anyways....?
Um, no. he basically started the arguing and then it got much worse involving other posters. It started last year with the Fairley delay. And I don't recall our defense being bad in 2013. Our oline in road games and Payton's clock management against NE cost us a first round bye.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:16 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo View Post
Payton did not model our offense after Seattle's so he must not have been as obsessed as you propose. There is a term that has been used in the NFL for a long time, before Payton was a HC, "copy cat league." If your defense stinks you look at defenses that do not stink and try to model them to succeed. That's not obsessing, that's being wise. Rob Ryan was the one who took the 4th ranked D and decided to "get funky" with it and it blew up in his face.
Jenkins, Smith, Harper, Shanle, Greer.....am I missing anyone else? Our 14 defense would not have been what it was had those players not left, especially Shanle, Jenkins, and Smith. Further, we let TWO safeties go that season.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:44 PM   #27
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Is this like a brick wall?
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I checked out after Will called Coach Sean Payton a simpleton (loon).
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:02 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
Jenkins, Smith, Harper, Shanle, Greer.....am I missing anyone else? Our 14 defense would not have been what it was had those players not left, especially Shanle, Jenkins, and Smith. Further, we let TWO safeties go that season.
I'm going to have to disagree...losing Greer was what derailed our D.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:15 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo View Post
I'm going to have to disagree...losing Greer was what derailed our D.
Our D was still playing fine after he got hurt. The offense struggled against the jets, rams, and seahawks and I think those games like the games of recency makes the defense look worse than the offense. How else did we win 38-17 against Dallas, 23-20 against a strong SF team(or 20-17?), 17-14 in Atlanta, forgot Carolina score but it was a blow out, we even lost 14-10 to Carolina in Carolina. All those games were held 20 points or less. Our defense gets blamed for the offense's ineffectiveness against St.Louis and Seattle? Brees was a turnover machine against the rams.

I guess allowing 24 points to the red hot eagles who was scoring much more than that was bad defense too.
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