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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Pete Knowing Lee,It's the latter Guido. He's not hurting for that amount of "pocket change" If he's actually involving lawyers over something that is ultimately this silly then he's either a fool or he's got money to ...

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Old 12-13-2017, 03:18 PM   #31
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Knowing Lee,It's the latter Guido.
He's not hurting for that amount of "pocket change"
If he's actually involving lawyers over something that is ultimately this silly then he's either a fool or he's got money to burn.
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If he's actually involving lawyers over something that is ultimately this silly then he's either a fool or he's got money to burn.
He's got the dinero to be heard
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:54 PM   #33
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I'm sure he could easily sell the tickets to a real Who Dat.
Take the money and go buy Dirty Birds tickets it's not that far.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:59 PM   #34
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He's got the dinero to be heard
Lots of people do, but often times what they're trying to get us to listen to is poo on a stick. Frankly I think this qualifies.
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Lots of people do, but often times what they're trying to get us to listen to is poo on a stick. Frankly I think this qualifies.
He's entitled reguardless man..
Doesn't affect me in any way really.
Better his pocket than my little wallet lol
And yes,he may be a fool but at least he'll stand his ground being a heard one
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:17 PM   #36
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Knowing Lee,It's the latter Guido.
He's not hurting for that amount of "pocket change"
Thanks, Pete. That's what I thought and was trying to point out to burningmetal.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:05 PM   #37
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But. What. If. He. Wins. ???

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Old 12-13-2017, 05:12 PM   #38
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I would agree with this guy. He purchased the tickets to have his family entertained my given someone else's political views. There is a time and place for everything.
Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game?

If not, why?

How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value.

But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive?

How are the two different?

I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:23 PM   #39
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I reread the article linked to in the original post and it does not mention anything about his going to the Saints and asking for a refund which they refused. You go back and read it word for word. So, yes, I did have to search for it. At least I took the time to do just that.



Saints season ticket prices range from a high of $3080 ($308 per game) down to $390 ($39 per game). Given every Saints game has sold out for over the last decade they are clearly not priced too high. It is what the market bears. That is simple economics.



That falls in line with my suggestion he is trying to make a point instead of simply getting his money back.



A small percentage of fans are angry. Personally, I think the whole thing is trivial, and like the vast majority of fans, I don't let it get in the way of being entertained.



No it isn't. It is perception. Regardless of how you see the act not everyone sees it as disrespecting their country or protesting without facts. That is your opinion. My sample opinion is just as valid.



I gave a sample that someone MAY use. It is no more valid a reason for a refund that what is being requested by this guy. I love the visiting fans myself. I usually make sure I interact and have on occasions led them to a favorite spot following the game.
'Guido, you clearly have no clue what is going on, and that's fine if ignorance is bliss to you. I have followed the ratings and seen the massive amount of negative attention the NFL has gotten from this whole thing. Stands around the league have been emptying, while you have been sitting in your chair pretending everything is great and making football your "god". You have demonstrated time and again just how naive YOU are. You cannot stand for anyone to say anything negative about your all important football team. You know why the people who still go to games are going? Because they are addicted to their team. I get it... I understand those people, but for you to suggest that they are all going because they don't care about the protests, is pure ignorance.

And as for this guy "making a point", as I said, whenever a customer is dissatisfied with a product, they tend to want to make it known. That does NOT suggest that he is doing this for the sole purpose of making a point. The guy isn't happy about what is going on, and he wants a refund. Should a point be made to the Saints and the NFL? Absolutely. It's become a political cesspool, and this is precisely why people like me are boycotting.

You clearly did not read the article word for word. It clearly says he went to the team and asked for a refund, but was turned down. You either aren't paying close enough attention, or you are lying to me. So don't pull that on me.

As for the season ticket prices, you seem to be missing a major point: While the lowest priced tickets might not be astronomical, you have to buy the entire package, as opposed to just a one time deal, and that gets expensive. But those "cheap" seats sell out quickly, and you are left with tickets that only wealthy people can afford.

As for your opinion being valid, I didn't suggest it wasn't, though I obviously disagree with you. But opinions, however valid or not, only make a difference when thy are shared with a majority. And so while you might choose to live in a bubble where nothing else matters as long as you are entertained, the fact is that you are not in the majority. I personally know people who are not boycotting, but hate what the NFL is doing. I can't make them boycott, and I won't attempt to. People will do what needs to be done when the time is right. Rome didn't fall over night, but when it did fall, it fell hard. Such will be the case for the NFL.

Lastly, this fan has a far greater reason to ask for a refund than the example you gave. Your example is something that is small and part of the game. This protesting is not only disrespectful, but it's a lie. They are pushing for justice where it isn't needed. They, along with the media, have brought negative attention to cops, which has helped to incite violence against police, and lead to murders of police. The NFL would not allow those officers to be honored when the Cowboys actually wanted to do something good to remember them. But they allow the protests with no consequences? Do you see my problem here, 'Guido?

There are a lot of things that you have not paid attention to, and you have just assumed that it's all a bunch of nothing. Pop that bubble, pal, and take a look at what's happening and ask yourself what exactly these players are doing. It is far from a trivial matter.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:30 PM   #40
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Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game?

If not, why?

How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value.

But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive?

How are the two different?

I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at.
Who is preaching to you? You want to know what the differences between the two things you mentioned are? One is a private matter that isn't stated in protest, and the other is something that entire teams are doing, and it has often been done in the middle of our National Anthem. You use the word religion, but there are a lot of different beliefs. As a Christian myself, I have a lot of problems with "religions" that pop up around the world. But if I see someone praying during a game, and I know he isn't a Christian, I am not offended. I would wish that the person were not praying to some pagan "god", or whatever else, but I believe in his right to have his religious freedom. It isn't something that is in your face, and making a political statement.

Major difference.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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