Braves Fans Speak Up!

skymike · 05-12-2010, 09:22 AM

In seriousness, Paul, I wish they would cap George Steinbrenner's spending. He's driving up the price of baseball for all of us. Baseball needs revenue sharing, and a real salary cap, IMO.

I do like the attention they pay to tradition, and New York must be an exciting place to see MLB.

saintfan · 05-13-2010, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

In seriousness, Paul, I wish they would cap George Steinbrenner's spending. He's driving up the price of baseball for all of us. Baseball needs revenue sharing, and a real salary cap, IMO.

I do like the attention they pay to tradition, and New York must be an exciting place to see MLB.

+1. When you manage your team, your farm system, etc, better than anyone else, well, I'm all about that, but when you purchase the league's top tier because you can, you've diluted the game, and this is what the Yankees do, which is why I'm a Rays fan more than anything else. Honestly, I'm a Braves fan, then Houston, then the Rays, and then anybody but the Yankees after that.

skymike · 05-13-2010, 05:30 PM

Yeah, thats my only problem with the Yankees. I dont care about winning and media hype. Hell, I like that some teams have a big winning tradition. It makes the game better. And the players themselves probably wish the media would find something else to shine the spotlight on. Its not their fault if the tools in the media are a bunch of tools.

But Like you say, SF, I'd like to see the money end of it leveled to an even playing field--- put a salary cap, revenue sharing, and get a common-sense business model together to stop the ridiculousness, rather than just depending on television and endless naming rights and stadium deals. Eventually, they're gonna run out of turnips to pull blood from, and they're gonna have to just use good judgement. This is true of all sports.

saintfan · 05-19-2010, 11:21 PM

.500 and 4 1/2 back. Amazingly it could be worse.

SaintPauly · 05-20-2010, 01:54 PM

I don't like the revenue sharing idea at all. The Yankees have probably THE strongest fan base, in the world, when it comes to pro sports, and i don't think it's fair, for them to have to share their revenues, with a team like Baltimore, or even the Rays, who's fans ONLY show up if they are winning. The Yankess are an institution, and without them, MLB would have went bankrupt years ago. There are two types of baseball fans in this country. One's that love the Yankees, and one's that love to hate the Yankees. That says alot about the organization, you have to admit.

saintfan · 05-20-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I don't like the revenue sharing idea at all. The Yankees have probably THE strongest fan base, in the world, when it comes to pro sports, and i don't think it's fair, for them to have to share their revenues, with a team like Baltimore, or even the Rays, who's fans ONLY show up if they are winning. The Yankess are an institution, and without them, MLB would have went bankrupt years ago. There are two types of baseball fans in this country. One's that love the Yankees, and one's that love to hate the Yankees. That says alot about the organization, you have to admit.

They are the Dallas Cowboys of MLB, only I don't hate Dallas anywhere NEAR as much as I hate the Yankees. Revenue sharing is the only thing that will save baseball. Allowing the Yankees to continue to buy championships at the expense of other team's rosters is what will continue to erode it. That's my .02 anyway.

skymike · 05-20-2010, 07:22 PM

Thats a good way to put it, Pauly. It does make sense that you shouldnt reward mediocrity, or teams not willing to try. Still there has to be something in place to give a chance to the teams who cant spend a bajillin dollars.

I still think we need a serious salary cap... maybe a minimum, and a solid business model.

saintfan · 05-23-2010, 12:34 PM

6 of 7 for the week and now only 3 1/2 back! Gotta love those early season mood swings.

homerj07 · 05-23-2010, 12:38 PM

I Must agree how can a Saints fan root for Atlanta - anything?

Hell I cheer when ATlanta burns in Gone With the Wind.

SaintPauly · 05-24-2010, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Thats a good way to put it, Pauly. It does make sense that you shouldnt reward mediocrity, or teams not willing to try. Still there has to be something in place to give a chance to the teams who cant spend a bajillin dollars.

I still think we need a serious salary cap... maybe a minimum, and a solid business model.

Here's another point though, for you and SF.... How many championships have the Yankees won in the past ten years? Last year, and before that, 2000. They won 3 in the 90s total, and before that, their last one was in 1978 I believe. Point being, it's NOT like they are winning every year. So this "buying championships" argument is kind of ridiculous don't you think? What, 6 championships in 30 years??? Yeah, we are really screwing the rest of the league.....

05-12-2010, 09:22 AM	#51
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! In seriousness, Paul, I wish they would cap George Steinbrenner's spending. He's driving up the price of baseball for all of us. Baseball needs revenue sharing, and a real salary cap, IMO. I do like the attention they pay to tradition, and New York must be an exciting place to see MLB.

05-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#52
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! Originally Posted by skymike In seriousness, Paul, I wish they would cap George Steinbrenner's spending. He's driving up the price of baseball for all of us. Baseball needs revenue sharing, and a real salary cap, IMO. I do like the attention they pay to tradition, and New York must be an exciting place to see MLB. +1. When you manage your team, your farm system, etc, better than anyone else, well, I'm all about that, but when you purchase the league's top tier because you can, you've diluted the game, and this is what the Yankees do, which is why I'm a Rays fan more than anything else. Honestly, I'm a Braves fan, then Houston, then the Rays, and then anybody but the Yankees after that.

05-13-2010, 05:30 PM	#53
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! Yeah, thats my only problem with the Yankees. I dont care about winning and media hype. Hell, I like that some teams have a big winning tradition. It makes the game better. And the players themselves probably wish the media would find something else to shine the spotlight on. Its not their fault if the tools in the media are a bunch of tools. But Like you say, SF, I'd like to see the money end of it leveled to an even playing field--- put a salary cap, revenue sharing, and get a common-sense business model together to stop the ridiculousness, rather than just depending on television and endless naming rights and stadium deals. Eventually, they're gonna run out of turnips to pull blood from, and they're gonna have to just use good judgement. This is true of all sports.

05-19-2010, 11:21 PM	#54
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! .500 and 4 1/2 back. Amazingly it could be worse.

05-20-2010, 01:54 PM	#55
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! I don't like the revenue sharing idea at all. The Yankees have probably THE strongest fan base, in the world, when it comes to pro sports, and i don't think it's fair, for them to have to share their revenues, with a team like Baltimore, or even the Rays, who's fans ONLY show up if they are winning. The Yankess are an institution, and without them, MLB would have went bankrupt years ago. There are two types of baseball fans in this country. One's that love the Yankees, and one's that love to hate the Yankees. That says alot about the organization, you have to admit.
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05-20-2010, 02:57 PM	#56
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I don't like the revenue sharing idea at all. The Yankees have probably THE strongest fan base, in the world, when it comes to pro sports, and i don't think it's fair, for them to have to share their revenues, with a team like Baltimore, or even the Rays, who's fans ONLY show up if they are winning. The Yankess are an institution, and without them, MLB would have went bankrupt years ago. There are two types of baseball fans in this country. One's that love the Yankees, and one's that love to hate the Yankees. That says alot about the organization, you have to admit. They are the Dallas Cowboys of MLB, only I don't hate Dallas anywhere NEAR as much as I hate the Yankees. Revenue sharing is the only thing that will save baseball. Allowing the Yankees to continue to buy championships at the expense of other team's rosters is what will continue to erode it. That's my .02 anyway.

05-20-2010, 07:22 PM	#57
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! Thats a good way to put it, Pauly. It does make sense that you shouldnt reward mediocrity, or teams not willing to try. Still there has to be something in place to give a chance to the teams who cant spend a bajillin dollars. I still think we need a serious salary cap... maybe a minimum, and a solid business model.

05-23-2010, 12:34 PM	#58
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! 6 of 7 for the week and now only 3 1/2 back! Gotta love those early season mood swings.

05-23-2010, 12:38 PM	#59
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! I Must agree how can a Saints fan root for Atlanta - anything? Hell I cheer when ATlanta burns in Gone With the Wind.

05-24-2010, 06:38 PM	#60
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Braves Fans Speak Up! Originally Posted by skymike Thats a good way to put it, Pauly. It does make sense that you shouldnt reward mediocrity, or teams not willing to try. Still there has to be something in place to give a chance to the teams who cant spend a bajillin dollars. I still think we need a serious salary cap... maybe a minimum, and a solid business model. Here's another point though, for you and SF.... How many championships have the Yankees won in the past ten years? Last year, and before that, 2000. They won 3 in the 90s total, and before that, their last one was in 1978 I believe. Point being, it's NOT like they are winning every year. So this "buying championships" argument is kind of ridiculous don't you think? What, 6 championships in 30 years??? Yeah, we are really screwing the rest of the league.....