Is Micheal Vick the best QB in the NFL?

Saintswrath · 11-17-2010, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back.
Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE.

We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things..
The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it.

No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

D_it_up · 11-18-2010, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Saintswrath

We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things..
The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it.

No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

Well said. A buddy and I were discussing Michael Vick last night, and we came to a conclusion. The majority of sports fans have a short-term memory about a player's wrongdoings after a couple of years, especially when they have incredible seasons on the field or court. Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Pete Rose, just to name a few. Winning or sympathy seem to give people a slight case of amnesia. It's not that we completely forget what they did in their past, but for many of us, it sure isn't the first thing we think of in the present.

Choupique · 11-18-2010, 03:36 AM

I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon.

How many Super Bowl rings does Vick have?

Slow down folks, would be my suggestion. If Vick pulls off what Marino did, get back to us.

SaintPauly · 11-18-2010, 03:55 AM

The Jets, Packers, and Titans, defensively, all ranked in the top 15 against the pass defensively. What do these teams have to do with Vick? They are 3 of the 4 teams he struggled against, and lost too. Now, look at the defensive ranks, of the teams that he has played well against... We already know that Washington, was ranked 31st, going into monday nights game. Indy's secondary, is a patchwork of journeyman DBs, and he didn't really light it up on them either. Is he playing good ball, based on the level of the defenses he's gone up against? Yes, he is. But MVP's do this against the top defenses as well. I have seen nothing that Vick has done, to make me think he's any better, than he was in his prime, in Atlanta. To make this post as specific as I can, am I scared of Vick against our number one ranked pass defense? Not in the least.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 11-18-2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend.

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Sharper gets alot of "man love". It's creepy and disturbing all at once.

I can see the ladies pouring it on Sharper because he's a daper dude. The man love from the guys just creeps me out.

Pot....kettle...black

SaintPauly · 11-18-2010, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend.

BTW...our all pro qb has problems with 3-4 defenses.

l gotta say it here, are you SURE you are a Saints fan? You seem to give props to every other team in the league, except your own. I mean, I think this is a legitimate question based on your past posts.

Vick has looked good, against SUBPAR competition. He has struggled, against top tier defenses. And rust? It's not like he just got off the transfer bus, got unshackled, and started playing. He played for the Eagles last year too, I do believe.

TheOak · 11-19-2010, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend.

BTW...our all pro qb has problems with 3-4 defenses.

Thanks for point this out. Ummmm Please list the NFL record(s) he has set?

Now in 2006 he broke two records but that was with the Falcons and does you nor the Eagles any good. But That hodgepodge of fanboy manlove, combination of achievements strung together was not an Official NFL Record.

What everyone is calling the "Record he set" Does not exist.
List of National Football League records (individual)

List of National Football League records (individual) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of National Football League records (individual) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now Brees on the other hand holds Official NFL records.

None of those most yards while playing at 33 feet of altitude, with red socks on, holding a banana in one hand, chewing bubble yum...records.

CashAndFlash · 11-19-2010, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek.

Nah, pretty sure he won't, and neither will I, or the next guy who reads this post... or the next... see where this is going?

spkb25 · 11-21-2010, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek.

No, none of those, but he has a Super Bowl, and I'll take that every time!

TheOak · 11-22-2010, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek.

The answers I sought were found with Google and listed..... "buddy". Maybe you should use "the Google" also and be able to justify your claims?

And as I stated... previously.. Lets look at his performance against the Giants Defense.

Passing: 24/38 258/yrds 0/TD's
Rushing: 11carrys for 34yds 3.1 ave yds/cry 1/TD. 9 yards was his longest.

QB rating 83.... 2 fumbles 1 lost.

Ehhem. What say you now?

11-17-2010, 08:00 PM	#1
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Originally Posted by OldMaid He should not be in the NFL. He should have not been allowed back. Playing football for a living , THE FEW YEARS ONE CAN DO SO is not a right,but a PRIVILEGE. We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things.. The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it. No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy.

11-18-2010, 02:40 AM	#2
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Saintswrath We'll we are a country that forgives after they serve their time for their wrong "OR theoretically forgive" for that matter sometimes people pick who they want to forgive for certain things.. The man's done his time, he's given public service as ordered by the courts, paid his due's, unless you want to have him hung for his crimes i think once he's done all he's had to do for his crimes he should be free to once again use his craft, if a company be it "NFL, Construction yard, Walmart etc" wants to hire him to help themselves better their own franchise, business or corporation they have the right hire and pay him for his services they think he's worth and he has the right to earn it. No one was required to hire Vick, they came to him because they saw some use left in him, we gotta have that in mind when we think he's getting off easy. Well said. A buddy and I were discussing Michael Vick last night, and we came to a conclusion. The majority of sports fans have a short-term memory about a player's wrongdoings after a couple of years, especially when they have incredible seasons on the field or court. Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Pete Rose, just to name a few. Winning or sympathy seem to give people a slight case of amnesia. It's not that we completely forget what they did in their past, but for many of us, it sure isn't the first thing we think of in the present.

11-18-2010, 03:36 AM	#3
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon. How many Super Bowl rings does Vick have? Slow down folks, would be my suggestion. If Vick pulls off what Marino did, get back to us.
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11-18-2010, 03:55 AM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	The Jets, Packers, and Titans, defensively, all ranked in the top 15 against the pass defensively. What do these teams have to do with Vick? They are 3 of the 4 teams he struggled against, and lost too. Now, look at the defensive ranks, of the teams that he has played well against... We already know that Washington, was ranked 31st, going into monday nights game. Indy's secondary, is a patchwork of journeyman DBs, and he didn't really light it up on them either. Is he playing good ball, based on the level of the defenses he's gone up against? Yes, he is. But MVP's do this against the top defenses as well. I have seen nothing that Vick has done, to make me think he's any better, than he was in his prime, in Atlanta. To make this post as specific as I can, am I scared of Vick against our number one ranked pass defense? Not in the least.
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11-18-2010, 10:48 AM	#5
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend. Originally Posted by Mr Magic Sharper gets alot of "man love". It's creepy and disturbing all at once. I can see the ladies pouring it on Sharper because he's a daper dude. The man love from the guys just creeps me out. Pot....kettle...black
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11-18-2010, 11:54 AM	#6
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Vick was shaking off rust earlier in the season. The man is setting NFL records, and winning. Watch him destroy the overrated Giants and Eli this weekend. BTW...our all pro qb has problems with 3-4 defenses. l gotta say it here, are you SURE you are a Saints fan? You seem to give props to every other team in the league, except your own. I mean, I think this is a legitimate question based on your past posts. Vick has looked good, against SUBPAR competition. He has struggled, against top tier defenses. And rust? It's not like he just got off the transfer bus, got unshackled, and started playing. He played for the Eagles last year too, I do believe.

11-19-2010, 08:43 PM	#8
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek. Nah, pretty sure he won't, and neither will I, or the next guy who reads this post... or the next... see where this is going?

11-21-2010, 06:36 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek. No, none of those, but he has a Super Bowl, and I'll take that every time!

11-22-2010, 08:10 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Your post has a condescending/sarcastic air to it. I suggest you learn to use google my friend to find the answers you seek. The answers I sought were found with Google and listed..... "buddy". Maybe you should use "the Google" also and be able to justify your claims? And as I stated... previously.. Lets look at his performance against the Giants Defense. Passing: 24/38 258/yrds 0/TD's Rushing: 11carrys for 34yds 3.1 ave yds/cry 1/TD. 9 yards was his longest. QB rating 83.... 2 fumbles 1 lost. Ehhem. What say you now?

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