Asante Samuel may be a good fit for the Saints

Maverick2299 · 02-22-2012, 11:06 AM

Vilma is going to stay around, he is still good and atleast the depth at the position will be outstanding.

Smith will most likely have a restructured deal, but unless they pick up a DE free agent he will stick around.

alleycat_126 · 02-22-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

This grasshopper would still take his chances on more productive players, Vilmas done he comes out of the gate strong but all the other horses seem to just pass him by{Dunbar}. Smith for that production for that money someone could come in and actually produce. Try the last 2 years as far as production goes for Vilma not just 1. Grasshopper has spoken my son!!

I think you mistake youth for actually being better, Chase Daniel is younger than Drew Brees but is he better? Dunbar is younger no doubt but there's no way he's better. This is the same guy who had to get coached up by Vilma after getting burned by Houston's full back!!!!

Dunbar is good, but he lacks the smarts to be the full time MLB right this minute. He doesn't see it like Vilma does on the field. As far as the young guns, don't they all come there own scrutiny.....

- Casillas on the field, of the field injured!!!
- Wilson Savior tag after only two real impactful plays all season!!!
- running down Christian Ponder in Minnesota
- a sack on Cam Newton where he did everything right

I'm all for upgrading don't get me wrong, but it has to be an upgrade. Like Martez replacing Shanle...... A real improvement. If you were to replace Vilma with ( i'll just throw a name out ) Kamerion Wimbley where the I could see the production would have a chance at being better yes. At this point, with Dunbar all your doing is changing band aids not fixing the sore!!!! As far as Smith goes, the pay cut is coming, as far as getting him off the team, I don't think it's happening and here's how I see this thing playing out because there will be spots where you can expect change.

- Scott Shanle ( released )
- Malcolm Jenkins back to nickel corner
- Shawn Rodgers ( released )
- Aburayo Franklin ( released )

BGWhoDat · 02-22-2012, 01:55 PM

So Vitt gets mentioned so I ask this..... Why would you think Shanle would be released? Vitt likes him, Spagnuolo tried to get him from the Saints and he was fifth on the team in tackles, and second among linebackers to Dunbar.

So if Smith stays with what would be more than likely the 2nd, third, or forth highest contract....(assuming he doesn't restructure, because I say he declines and gets cut) why would Shanle stay?

CharityMike · 02-22-2012, 02:57 PM

Sounds to me like Vitt and Johnson need to hit the door. How much longer do we have to blame bad line and lb play on lack if talent?

Luda34 · 02-22-2012, 03:18 PM

Why are we trying to get rid of Vilma yeah he may be a little price but he's the only leader we have on defense.

02-22-2012, 01:17 PM	#12
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by halloween 65 This grasshopper would still take his chances on more productive players, Vilmas done he comes out of the gate strong but all the other horses seem to just pass him by{Dunbar}. Smith for that production for that money someone could come in and actually produce. Try the last 2 years as far as production goes for Vilma not just 1. Grasshopper has spoken my son!! I think you mistake youth for actually being better, Chase Daniel is younger than Drew Brees but is he better? Dunbar is younger no doubt but there's no way he's better. This is the same guy who had to get coached up by Vilma after getting burned by Houston's full back!!!! Dunbar is good, but he lacks the smarts to be the full time MLB right this minute. He doesn't see it like Vilma does on the field. As far as the young guns, don't they all come there own scrutiny..... - Casillas on the field, of the field injured!!! - Wilson Savior tag after only two real impactful plays all season!!! - running down Christian Ponder in Minnesota - a sack on Cam Newton where he did everything right I'm all for upgrading don't get me wrong, but it has to be an upgrade. Like Martez replacing Shanle...... A real improvement. If you were to replace Vilma with ( i'll just throw a name out ) Kamerion Wimbley where the I could see the production would have a chance at being better yes. At this point, with Dunbar all your doing is changing band aids not fixing the sore!!!! As far as Smith goes, the pay cut is coming, as far as getting him off the team, I don't think it's happening and here's how I see this thing playing out because there will be spots where you can expect change. - Scott Shanle ( released ) - Malcolm Jenkins back to nickel corner - Shawn Rodgers ( released ) - Aburayo Franklin ( released )

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Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	Vilma is going to stay around, he is still good and atleast the depth at the position will be outstanding. Smith will most likely have a restructured deal, but unless they pick up a DE free agent he will stick around.

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02-22-2012, 01:55 PM	#13
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	So Vitt gets mentioned so I ask this..... Why would you think Shanle would be released? Vitt likes him, Spagnuolo tried to get him from the Saints and he was fifth on the team in tackles, and second among linebackers to Dunbar. So if Smith stays with what would be more than likely the 2nd, third, or forth highest contract....(assuming he doesn't restructure, because I say he declines and gets cut) why would Shanle stay?

02-22-2012, 02:57 PM	#14
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Sounds to me like Vitt and Johnson need to hit the door. How much longer do we have to blame bad line and lb play on lack if talent?

02-22-2012, 03:18 PM	#15
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Why are we trying to get rid of Vilma yeah he may be a little price but he's the only leader we have on defense.