Asante Samuel may be a good fit for the Saints

alleycat_126 · 02-22-2012, 05:30 AM

Both Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma will have to restructure true, but I don't see either one getting cut this season. Here are the some good reasons why you may still see them in the black and gold sorry to kill it for you!!!

Vilma:

1. The main reason Vilma will stick around is Joe Vitt!! Vitt loves Vilma, and Shanle for that matter as long as Shawn isn't changing assistant head coaches I think Vilma who isn't the worst of the linebackers gets a chance to fully recover from the knee issues that were bothering him last season.

2. His pay directly counts against the cap. Whomever you bring in at the Linebacker is in addition to what Vilma is making. Say you wave Vilma and bring in (my favorite) D,Qwell Jackson ( franchise tag) you will have to pay the franchise tag penalty what ever picks that would be and that players salary, and Vilma's. Way to expensive if you ask me. But they do if they are desperate for change. I don't think we are at that point yet!!!

Smith:

1. Will's making to much, we all know that but in a Spags defense you know what's a comodity!!! Defensive Ends!!!! You can't have enough of good DE's. So I think you'll see him take a pay cut, yes, but I don't see him leaving? Nope

2. Experience

Romeus - no field time
Jordan - 1 year experience
Mcbride - leaving
Drafted Rookie - no NFL field time
Trust me you need Will Smith's leadership right now!!!!

Danno · 02-22-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Both Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma will have to restructure true, but I don't see either one getting cut this season. Here are the some good reasons why you may still see them in the black and gold sorry to kill it for you!!!

Vilma:

1. The main reason Vilma will stick around is Joe Vitt!! Vitt loves Vilma, and Shanle for that matter as long as Shawn isn't changing assistant head coaches I think Vilma who isn't the worst of the linebackers gets a chance to fully recover from the knee issues that were bothering him last season.

2. His pay directly counts against the cap. Whomever you bring in at the Linebacker is in addition to what Vilma is making. Say you wave Vilma and bring in (my favorite) D,Qwell Jackson ( franchise tag) you will have to pay the franchise tag penalty what ever picks that would be and that players salary, and Vilma's. Way to expensive if you ask me. But they do if they are desperate for change. I don't think we are at that point yet!!!

Smith:

1. Will's making to much, we all know that but in a Spags defense you know what's a comodity!!! Defensive Ends!!!! You can't have enough of good DE's. So I think you'll see him take a pay cut, yes, but I don't see him leaving? Nope

2. Experience

Romeus - no field time
Jordan - 1 year experience
Mcbride - leaving
Drafted Rookie - no NFL field time
Trust me you need Will Smith's leadership right now!!!!

Agree except I think McBride stays for the same reason you mentioned concerning Spagnoulo. McBride is still young at 26 and he's cheap.

BGWhoDat · 02-22-2012, 08:51 AM

I understand your points, but:

Vilma: I think we can agree on the Saints not bringing in a D'Qwell Jackson (who will be tagged) that's a given. But if the Saints have a chance at someone paid like Vilma, younger, more productive, why wouldn't they? The franchise needs to put theirselves in a position to win. As much as Vitt may like him, it still doesn't mean he won't leave.

Smith: Smith will leave if he doesn't take a pay cut. His productivity isn't worth it. In 2011 he was the highest paid player on the roster. So there's a legit chance he could leave. Spag may want to keep him but I bet not at the price tag he has.

As far as Samuel goes, do I think he would be a good fit? Yes. Do I think that it's a possibility? Sure. GM's look at all possibilities.

I simply stated of ways (such as cutting Smith and Vilma, that figure was from ESPN.com report) for it to happen.

They aren't likely to get a top dollar cornerback via FA, but as a writer we have to look at all possibilities and give people things to think about. It was an interesting article and there's always possibilities it could happen but in all likelihood it won't.

02-22-2012, 05:30 AM	#1
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Both Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma will have to restructure true, but I don't see either one getting cut this season. Here are the some good reasons why you may still see them in the black and gold sorry to kill it for you!!! Vilma: 1. The main reason Vilma will stick around is Joe Vitt!! Vitt loves Vilma, and Shanle for that matter as long as Shawn isn't changing assistant head coaches I think Vilma who isn't the worst of the linebackers gets a chance to fully recover from the knee issues that were bothering him last season. 2. His pay directly counts against the cap. Whomever you bring in at the Linebacker is in addition to what Vilma is making. Say you wave Vilma and bring in (my favorite) D,Qwell Jackson ( franchise tag) you will have to pay the franchise tag penalty what ever picks that would be and that players salary, and Vilma's. Way to expensive if you ask me. But they do if they are desperate for change. I don't think we are at that point yet!!! Smith: 1. Will's making to much, we all know that but in a Spags defense you know what's a comodity!!! Defensive Ends!!!! You can't have enough of good DE's. So I think you'll see him take a pay cut, yes, but I don't see him leaving? Nope 2. Experience Romeus - no field time Jordan - 1 year experience Mcbride - leaving Drafted Rookie - no NFL field time Trust me you need Will Smith's leadership right now!!!! Danno and QBREES9 like this.

02-22-2012, 08:19 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Both Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma will have to restructure true, but I don't see either one getting cut this season. Here are the some good reasons why you may still see them in the black and gold sorry to kill it for you!!! Vilma: 1. The main reason Vilma will stick around is Joe Vitt!! Vitt loves Vilma, and Shanle for that matter as long as Shawn isn't changing assistant head coaches I think Vilma who isn't the worst of the linebackers gets a chance to fully recover from the knee issues that were bothering him last season. 2. His pay directly counts against the cap. Whomever you bring in at the Linebacker is in addition to what Vilma is making. Say you wave Vilma and bring in (my favorite) D,Qwell Jackson ( franchise tag) you will have to pay the franchise tag penalty what ever picks that would be and that players salary, and Vilma's. Way to expensive if you ask me. But they do if they are desperate for change. I don't think we are at that point yet!!! Smith: 1. Will's making to much, we all know that but in a Spags defense you know what's a comodity!!! Defensive Ends!!!! You can't have enough of good DE's. So I think you'll see him take a pay cut, yes, but I don't see him leaving? Nope 2. Experience Romeus - no field time Jordan - 1 year experience Mcbride - leaving Drafted Rookie - no NFL field time Trust me you need Will Smith's leadership right now!!!! Agree except I think McBride stays for the same reason you mentioned concerning Spagnoulo. McBride is still young at 26 and he's cheap.

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BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	I understand your points, but: Vilma: I think we can agree on the Saints not bringing in a D'Qwell Jackson (who will be tagged) that's a given. But if the Saints have a chance at someone paid like Vilma, younger, more productive, why wouldn't they? The franchise needs to put theirselves in a position to win. As much as Vitt may like him, it still doesn't mean he won't leave. Smith: Smith will leave if he doesn't take a pay cut. His productivity isn't worth it. In 2011 he was the highest paid player on the roster. So there's a legit chance he could leave. Spag may want to keep him but I bet not at the price tag he has. As far as Samuel goes, do I think he would be a good fit? Yes. Do I think that it's a possibility? Sure. GM's look at all possibilities. I simply stated of ways (such as cutting Smith and Vilma, that figure was from ESPN.com report) for it to happen. They aren't likely to get a top dollar cornerback via FA, but as a writer we have to look at all possibilities and give people things to think about. It was an interesting article and there's always possibilities it could happen but in all likelihood it won't.