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hagan714 04-30-2013 12:31 AM

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:cheering: :cheering:Tim Tebow:cheering: :cheering:

Crusader 04-30-2013 02:46 AM

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I'd take him over the 2 current backups but he wouldn't be my first choice for the position either. He seems to be a good guy thou so if our staff decided he could be of value to us I would welcome him.

lsutigerfan 04-30-2013 03:03 AM

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If anyone will know how to use Tebow it's Sean Payton.

Besides if Payton and Loomis wants Tebow, who am I to argue.

Not saying I'd do it, but in Payton and Loomis I trust.

FinSaint 04-30-2013 03:58 AM

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Id' rather not... it would bring more media attention on the Saints, and I'd prefer them to go unnoticed until everyone notices how they can't be beat this coming season.

UK_WhoDat 04-30-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 499699)
He has to clear waivers.

https://lh3.ggpht.com/-VZMT4dZ735M/U...ng-goodbye.jpg

xan 04-30-2013 06:11 AM

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I'm going to add glass shards to the Tabasco.

Wait. I've been too rough. One of our nuns died. Saints could offer him a one year contract to seehow he performs in a habit.

Ayossaints 04-30-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 499760)
I agree Dude, this is never going to happen but if he sucks so bad how did he pull off all those victories and playoff game. You can say defense saved him but come on...he did enough to prove he can win games. It's not pretty but he can do it. He can manage a game.

I agree with you. Everyone wants to talk so badly about Tim Tebow, it's ridiculous. No one can just come in and lead their team to a playoff win. I think we should give him a chance.

SmashMouth 04-30-2013 07:10 AM

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As stated earlier, if he acquiesced to being a role player and a backup, and if it were at league min, it's a win win for everybody. And if there is any team that could make all this media frenzy go quiet in the night, as Brees is the man, it'd be the Saints. I can just envision the trick plays from SP with Tebow as the placekicker holder.

SmashMouth 04-30-2013 07:14 AM

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As stated earlier in another Tebow thread, if he acquiesced to being a role player and a backup, and if it were at league min, it's a win win for everybody. And if there is any team that could make all this media frenzy go quiet in the night, as Brees is the man, it'd be the Saints. I can just envision the trick plays from SP with Tebow as the placekicker holder.

Seer1 04-30-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 499806)
Say what u want buddy...tebow within five yards of the goal line is a good thing. On limited opportunities he would not be denied the td.

So would Big John Garage Door Jenkins!

TheOak 04-30-2013 07:46 AM

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Ha... I tried a different angle on Tebow because it wouldn't matter anyway.. He is way too polarizing.

Tebow has no fit in the NFL. Had Denver's defense not kept the game close enough for 1 TD to decide the outcome a few times he would not be called a "winner". If Tebow wasn't the spiritual person he is you could cut his fan base by 3/4, most people like him as a person and for his positive attitude.

So what are you left with? A very likeable guy and a good athlete which draws much love in certain circles. As the Football purists see him he can not block like a TE or HBack, could not be a Full Back and blow a LB out, not good enough hands to be a receiver, his mechanics are not good enough to be an NFL QB... He does not posses value as a backup Qb either, as you would have to have two game plans, one for your passing Qb and another for Tebow. His lack of NFL passing ability doesn't lend him to be a good Read option QB because defenses know he is not a passer.

He has no value on an NFL team.... Except for Jacksonville as they could use the people in the seats, and the revenue from jersey sales, and the fans that Tim Tebow would draw for them.

SapperSaint 04-30-2013 08:19 AM

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Tebow could disapear from the media with the Saints. Would the first couple of weeks be hell in NOLA? Yes, but Tebow is not going to take Drew's top spot.

The guy can win. He has proved that. Also, who better for him to sit back and learn from, other than Brady or Manning? If they bring him in, I won't have an issue with it.

I'm sorry Tulane fans, but I would feel better with a QB that has NFL playing time, plus playoff experience over a Conference USA QB. (In a crunch, if Drew were to go down)

tavia45 04-30-2013 08:23 AM

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The devil is a liar and the Truth isn't in him.

TheOak 04-30-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 499874)
Tebow could disapear from the media with the Saints. Would the first couple of weeks be hell in NOLA? Yes, but Tebow is not going to take Drew's top spot.

The guy can win. He has proved that. Also, who better for him to sit back and learn from, other than Brady or Manning? If they bring him in, I won't have an issue with it.

I'm sorry Tulane fans, but I would feel better with a QB that has NFL playing time, plus playoff experience over a Conference USA QB. (In a crunch, if Drew were to go down)

Where has he proven he can win as an NFL QB? The Bronco's defense own the 2011 season.

As a QB Tim Tebow has a career comp percentage of 47.9%, and he throws 1 INT for every 2 TDs.

SapperSaint 04-30-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 499877)
Where has he proven he can win as an NFL QB? The Bronco's defense own the 2011 season.

As a QB Tim Tebow has a career comp percentage of 47.9%, and he throws 1 INT for every 2 TDs.

We can't all be perfect:)

bobdog86 04-30-2013 08:39 AM

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distraction city! don't need it, period. We need to get back to some semblance of football normalcy. No gimmicks, no added press smoke and mirror BS, just concentrate on football. Tebow, although a nice kid, has no home in NOLA.

Mardigras9 04-30-2013 08:56 AM

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Tebow would not create a QB controversy here because Brees is one of the best in the league. The media circus would at least be on a positive note this season after we spent all last season in the negative.
I think Sean Payton could make Tebow everything he is going to be in the NFL at whatever position he ends up in.

hagan714 04-30-2013 09:03 AM

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sign tebow ban the media
do not sign tebow ban the media

under lying them here u think?

Shoe. 04-30-2013 09:59 AM

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You know, all this stuff about "he wins games" and "he just wins," the thing about that stuff is its impossible to argue against given the empirical data. Yes his ratio is terrible. No, he is not the typical NFL QB and no, he can't make the throws (except the one to Demaryius Thomas in the Pittsburgh game. That was a freaking clutch strike). When people say, "The Defense won those games" the proper statement should be "The defense kept them in those games so all TT had to do was find a way to get 6 points." He, somehow, is a clutch player that plays his best when the chips are down, and IMO there should always be room somewhere for a player like that on just about any team.

But the thing is, we already have a guy like that in DB.

I would much rather the roster spot go to a still-wet-behind-the-ears rookie QB like this Ryan Griffin kid who is 6'4, 220, with a howitzer for an arm, who can "make all the throws," as I've heard said about him. Why wasn't he drafted? I'm sure there's a legit reason, but Payton has shown he can make an UDFA QB into a star (so it only happened once, and with Romo, but hey, it only HAS to happen once for it to be a possibility of re-occurring in the future)

tl;dr - Tebow is a helluva competitor but we don't need him, and we got young guys that do need to see the field and get quality time, so, as Danno says, we can make sure the window never closes.

TheOak 04-30-2013 10:04 AM

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Clutch Player value holds true to every position except for QB I believe... Where there is a rotation there is value in the clutch... When there is no rotation like QB there is no reason to put him on the field... Unles someone can think of one instance where they would rather have Tebow on the field than Brees?

foreverfan 04-30-2013 10:05 AM

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Off field distraction. Would Payton would feel obligated to design plays for him? I'd much rather have the ball in Brees hands.

Look it's hard not to like the kid and he is a winner. I would have a hard time disagreeing with Payton if he was signed.

foreverfan 04-30-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 499900)
Clutch Player value holds true to every position except for QB I believe... Where there is a rotation there is value in the clutch... When there is no rotation like QB there is no reason to put him on the field... Unles someone can think of one instance where they would rather have Tebow on the field than Brees?

Errr.... Holding FG and Extra Points. :rolleyes:

TheOak 04-30-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 499902)
Off field distraction. Would Payton would feel obligated to design plays for him? I'd much rather have the ball in Brees hands.

Look it's hard not to like the kid and he is a winner. I would have a hard time disagreeing with Payton if he was signed.

Payton has never been one to grab or hold on to just "likeable guys"... Hence our record with Sean Payton.

voodooido 04-30-2013 10:28 AM

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League min for a player that would learn a lot from Brees. He has never had a chance to sit and learn behind a quality qb. Not to mention he would be happy to play just about any position until its his turn at qb. Play the kid on special teams. He would love to tackle some of the ones who blasted him....

Seer1 04-30-2013 10:37 AM

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An actual well written single pager from Doucher Report:

"Tebow wasn't cut because the Jets drafted Smith; he was cut because he isn't good enough to be an NFL quarterback. He wasn't good enough to play for one of the worst teams in football."

"The Jets were an absolute circus, and Tebow, it seems, no longer fits in the clown car."

Tim Tebow Can Be Great, Just Not in the NFL | Bleacher Report

TheOak 04-30-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 499911)
An actual well written single pager from Doucher Report:

"Tebow wasn't cut because the Jets drafted Smith; he was cut because he isn't good enough to be an NFL quarterback. He wasn't good enough to play for one of the worst teams in football."

"The Jets were an absolute circus, and Tebow, it seems, no longer fits in the clown car."

Tim Tebow Can Be Great, Just Not in the NFL | Bleacher Report

Bingo! If you cant beat out Sanchez.....

Jamessr 04-30-2013 11:05 AM

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Not sure why they drafted him, but I honestly think they never had any intentions on playing him.
It was all PR.

TheOak 04-30-2013 11:11 AM

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Apparently he came from New Orleans where he got ina fight over a Cajun Queen.

Crusader 04-30-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 499756)
They treated him horrible..... You wait until after the draft, to release him pretty much assuring he won't be in any uniform this season. Jets are horrible for that....

Agreed Like the guy or not but that is always a ****ty way to treat a guy. I mean give him a chance in FA at least.

Tobias-Reiper 04-30-2013 01:38 PM

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All joking aside, Seneca Wallace was signed (I assume) so he can run the option in practice (otherwise it makes no sense at all). Wouldn't Tebow be a better choice for running the option in practice?

Budsdrinker 04-30-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 499809)
Where would we get the money to sign him? Whose roster spot would he take? Nope.

Not saying I want him or would sign him but he would take the same spot Chase Daniel took the last 2 years and after passing through waivers the same money. But again I'm not saying I want to sign him, just answering your question.

BIGEASY504 04-30-2013 01:54 PM

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4GetAboutIt!!!! - by him being in an offense that Florida was running at the time, it didn't develop him to be a QB so no don't care what he did at the Broncos that's a player taking a spot that could fill a need/upgrade etc.

SaintnDE 04-30-2013 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 499914)
Bingo! If you cant beat out Sanchez.....

Who says he truly didn't? With all of the hoopla the Jets gave, who could really see through the circus tent and say that he didn't beat him out; and in order to save face for the money they paid the ''latino assface" (coined after the butt fumble BTW), just didn't let it be known.

Look at their completion rate and tell me it wasn't at LEAST close.

TheOak 04-30-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintnDE (Post 499986)
Who says he truly didn't? With all of the hoopla the Jets gave, who could really see through the circus tent and say that he didn't beat him out; and in order to save face for the money they paid the ''latino assface" (coined after the butt fumble BTW), just didn't let it be known.

Look at their completion rate and tell me it wasn't at LEAST close.

Sanchez is the present starter, that is proof that he did not get beat out. Regardless of the measurables that you or I look at, if Tebow had legitimately beat out Sanchez, he would be the starter. Close but behind is not beating someone out. If Drew Brees showed up to the Jets training camp Sanchez would be gone, with out so much as an after thought about saving face.

The NY Jets can not beat the Patriots with a Tebow, they cant do it with a Sanchez either.. Hence... Geno Smith.

There were no plans to release Tebow until Geno was available in the draft.... Tebow was under contract which is why he was not up for FA.

The Jets have won 1 of the last 6 meetings.

Choupique 04-30-2013 04:16 PM

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phffft. we don't need a preachy drama queen.

no thanks.

never liked that guy.

K Major 04-30-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 499983)
4GetAboutIt!!!! - by him being in an offense that Florida was running at the time, it didn't develop him to be a QB so no don't care what he did at the Broncos that's a player taking a spot that could fill a need/upgrade etc.

+1. Mr. Tebow went from a national champ to a national joke.

Pass (something he can't do at this level).

Seer1 04-30-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 499976)
All joking aside, Seneca Wallace was signed (I assume) so he can run the option in practice (otherwise it makes no sense at all). Wouldn't Tebow be a better choice for running the option in practice?

No, you have to be able to throw to be effective in the option. Seneca can do that.

skymike 04-30-2013 05:44 PM

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I'm for it. Lets address some objections first:
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 499758)
How are we supposed to pay him and who's roster spot will he take?

American dollars & the backup QB? :)
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 499904)
Payton has never been one to grab or hold on to just "likeable guys"... .

Completely disagree. Name one "Terrell Owens" on our team. Our guys are the least mouthy, least rap-sheeted, most community oriented guys in sports. Our guys are good guys. Tebow fits.
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Originally Posted by Brandon428 (Post 499732)
Even if he just warmed the bench how is a guy who is arguably potentially a talented athlete,won't ask for much money,will bring nothing but a positive and highly motivated attitude...hurt us?

...exactly. Why not have a backup QB who brings you positive press?
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Originally Posted by TwistedTiger (Post 499713)
...with all the negative distractions of last season it might be a positive thing to have the spot light off the negatives and focused on Tebow...

nother good point. I'd like to get the Bounty thing forgotten. Who better than a friend of Jesus to cleanse our image?
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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 499874)
Tebow could disapear from the media with the Saints. ... Tebow is not going to take Drew's top spot.

Slam Bam. Coming to NOLA would be like getting in the Witness Protection Program. He just wouldnt be that big of a deal here. And zero people, not even Skip Bayless would expect him to upend Brees. Brees would feel zero threat. You gotta realize, a big part of the circus in NY was that Sanchez is weak enough that Tebow was a threat to start.
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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 499874)
I would feel better with a QB that has NFL playing time, plus playoff experience over a Conference USA QB. (In a crunch, if Drew were to go down)

And He's WON. Somehow, he finds a way
to win.
Look, if Brees goes down, we're shooting craps anyway. Why not have a b/u QB who functions as both a utility player & a PR boost? We're the one city that benefits from Media attention. Isnt this the reason you were ok with the stupid azz London Game? Well there's the exposure you want.
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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 500003)
phffft. we don't need a preachy drama queen.
no thanks. never liked that guy.

pretty much does it for me. I vote "yes."

vpheughan 04-30-2013 05:59 PM

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Pay the league minimum and he EARRRRRRRRNS his spot!

Seer1 04-30-2013 05:59 PM

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Sky, you're only pulling up stuff you want to read. There's some hard stuff out there you're totally ignoring. It's all moot now though. He's got a job.
Omaha Beef indoor team offers Tim Tebow a contract - ESPN


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