Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints > NFL

Colin Kaepernick-discuss

this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; All you that see how offensive it is that he don't stand for the anthem, just think about all those black families that lost their loves ones to brutal killing by police officers and George Zimmerman for being found innocent ...

Like Tree122Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2016, 06:49 PM   #1
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monroe, La
Posts: 2,627
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

All you that see how offensive it is that he don't stand for the anthem, just think about all those black families that lost their loves ones to brutal killing by police officers and George Zimmerman for being found innocent for Trayvon Martin death. Yes close your eyes or justify the lost of those lives. If you notice not one black person is burning a jersey or speaking out publicly. Americans black & white gave their lives in order for us to have freedom of protest and yes standing for the anthem is a sign of respect to our fallen heroes but sitting to protest is Kap freedom to protest. PEOPLE be careful how you attack Kap before this turnout very huge and blacks come to his defense
exiled likes this.
nola_swammi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 10:08 PM   #2
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,589
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
All you that see how offensive it is that he don't stand for the anthem, just think about all those black families that lost their loves ones to brutal killing by police officers and George Zimmerman for being found innocent for Trayvon Martin death. Yes close your eyes or justify the lost of those lives. If you notice not one black person is burning a jersey or speaking out publicly. Americans black & white gave their lives in order for us to have freedom of protest and yes standing for the anthem is a sign of respect to our fallen heroes but sitting to protest is Kap freedom to protest. PEOPLE be careful how you attack Kap before this turnout very huge and blacks come to his defense
What the hell does this have to do with being unpatriotic? What about white families that lose love ones to murders caused by Blacks? What about Whites being murdered by Whites? What about Blacks being murdered by Blacks? Is there only outrage when a black person is killed by white? How Hypocritical!! We have a Black President now and Blacks have as much opportunity now as Whites, so to say that you are being oppressed by your skin color is total BS. BTW, I'm not white, and I've never felt oppressed or discriminated against because I REFUSE to let my skin color or ethnicity define who I am as a person. If you use discrimination or oppression as an excuse, than you are living with a Victim Mentality. With all the opportunity and money that Kap has, he's an IDIOT for living with that kind of mentality. I'd like to tell him to quit being a p***y and Get over it!!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
burningmetal likes this.
44Champs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 11:38 PM   #3
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monroe, La
Posts: 2,627
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by 44Champs View Post
What the hell does this have to do with being unpatriotic? What about white families that lose love ones to murders caused by Blacks? What about Whites being murdered by Whites? What about Blacks being murdered by Blacks? Is there only outrage when a black person is killed by white? How Hypocritical!! We have a Black President now and Blacks have as much opportunity now as Whites, so to say that you are being oppressed by your skin color is total BS. BTW, I'm not white, and I've never felt oppressed or discriminated against because I REFUSE to let my skin color or ethnicity define who I am as a person. If you use discrimination or oppression as an excuse, than you are living with a Victim Mentality. With all the opportunity and money that Kap has, he'd an IDIOT for living with that kind of mentality. Get over it!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
I never said anything about being unpatriotic. The opportunities for whites are greater that's a fact. When you have predominantly blacks that live in a town and majority of the officers are white, fact. When you have the NFL that predominantly black players you have not one owner that's black, fact. Now I am not saying blacks don't have any opportunity but the door is wide open if you're white. Kap, have as much right as any other individual to protest that don't mean you have to agree. People quick to make an uproar and feel insulted by him not standing up, how the f*** you think I feel when I see my brothers and sisters being beaten, murdered with no sense of f****** justice. I could care less what race you are as a person that should tick you off if someone with a badge can walk up to you disregard your rights. How did you feel about O.J. Being set free?
nola_swammi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2016, 06:07 AM   #4
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,589
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
I never said anything about being unpatriotic. The opportunities for whites are greater that's a fact. When you have predominantly blacks that live in a town and majority of the officers are white, fact. When you have the NFL that predominantly black players you have not one owner that's black, fact. Now I am not saying blacks don't have any opportunity but the door is wide open if you're white. Kap, have as much right as any other individual to protest that don't mean you have to agree. People quick to make an uproar and feel insulted by him not standing up, how the f*** you think I feel when I see my brothers and sisters being beaten, murdered with no sense of f****** justice. I could care less what race you are as a person that should tick you off if someone with a badge can walk up to you disregard your rights. How did you feel about O.J. Being set free?
So according to your argument, if I stand up for the national anthem, that equates to me approving of black men being beat up by police officers. Because that's why you think Kap should be able to sit. Tell me - how does that work? Walk me through this because your logic makes no sense. As far as no black owners in the NFL, what are you trying to say? That there's collusion among the white owners to keep out a black owner? I dont remember any black men stepping up and attempting to buy a franchise, and if there has been, what was the reason why it didnt go through? Oh, and what does the OJ case have to do with this issue on the national anthem? Did you see any white athletes refusing to stand when the not guilty verdict came through? No - you didnt because that would have made NO SENSE!! And that's my whole point that people like you and Kap dont understand. The national anthem isnt about race or color or religion. It's supposed to unite Americans DESPITE the differences. But instead you have people that want to EMPHASIZE the differences by burning a flag or sitting for the national anthem. Those are the idiots that pose the biggest dangers to this country, because they promote malcontent, hatred and division. You want to fight against injustice? Go do some civil work. Go volunteer. Get involved in the government. Do something POSITIVE. But don't use the national anthem or the flag as a tool to do your dirty work. What Kap is doing is negative and idiotic, and people like you support him. Let me know how his plan works for you, because personally, I think his actions make more of a negative impact than a positive one.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Rugby Saint II likes this.
44Champs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2016, 07:18 PM   #5
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monroe, La
Posts: 2,627
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by 44Champs View Post
So according to your argument, if I stand up for the national anthem, that equates to me approving of black men being beat up by police officers. Because that's why you think Kap should be able to sit. Tell me - how does that work? Walk me through this because your logic makes no sense. As far as no black owners in the NFL, what are you trying to say? That there's collusion among the white owners to keep out a black owner? I dont remember any black men stepping up and attempting to buy a franchise, and if there has been, what was the reason why it didnt go through? Oh, and what does the OJ case have to do with this issue on the national anthem? No - you didnt because that would have made NO SENSE!! And that's my whole point that people like you and Kap dont understand. The national anthem isnt about race or color or religion. It's supposed to unite Americans DESPITE the differences. But instead you have people that want to EMPHASIZE the differences by burning a flag or sitting for the national anthem. Those are the idiots that pose the biggest dangers to this country, because they promote malcontent, hatred and division. You want to fight against injustice? Go do some civil work. Go volunteer. Get involved in the government. Do something POSITIVE. But don't use the national anthem or the flag as a tool to do your dirty work. What Kap is doing is negative and idiotic, and people like you support him. Let me know how his plan works for you, because personally, I think his actions make more of a negative impact than a positive one.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Guy you as dumb as dirt, if you can't understand what I am typing read slower or just have your wife read it back to you. I said earlier in one of my statements I wish he used another platform besides the anthem to protest. I am a Disable Vet, my father and uncles also served in the military. I know what a solider sacrifice, I know the meanings behind the words of OUR anthem. Yet still he have that RIGHT to protest how he feel. Don't get it twisted that I support not standing for the anthem, I support the cause. If not standing for the anthem would shed more light to the cause and bring more awareness to STOP this brutality, I'll sit my fat A** DOWN AS WELL!!! instead I believe by using the anthem will bring more divide and I am not for that. Still as American he has that right and I can't enforce my thoughts unto him like I can't give a blind man(44 champ) sight.

As far as no black owners in the NFL, what are you trying to say? yes

http://thereelnetwork.net/black-play...ck-nfl-owners/


you see any white athletes refusing to stand when the not guilty verdict came through? Oh, and what does the OJ case have to do with this issue on the national anthem?

He doesn't (you really do need to proof read) I refer to how white people feeling when O.J was pronounce NOT GUILTY as the same feeling when George Zimmerman & officer were pronounce NOT GUILTY


Did you see any white athletes refusing to stand when the not guilty verdict came through?

(If you referring to the O.J.)I seen much worst, RACISM & DIVISION BETWEEN THE TWO RACES. White people were hurt and sadden, blacks vindicated
nola_swammi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 11:11 PM   #6
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,923
Blog Entries: 3
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
All you that see how offensive it is that he don't stand for the anthem, just think about all those black families that lost their loves ones to brutal killing by police officers and George Zimmerman for being found innocent for Trayvon Martin death. Yes close your eyes or justify the lost of those lives. If you notice not one black person is burning a jersey or speaking out publicly. Americans black & white gave their lives in order for us to have freedom of protest and yes standing for the anthem is a sign of respect to our fallen heroes but sitting to protest is Kap freedom to protest. PEOPLE be careful how you attack Kap before this turnout very huge and blacks come to his defense
This kind of comment is a huge part of what's wrong with America. People like me and others around here keep talking about how the media is spreading propaganda about "racism". And people just eat it up.

Your comment illustrates that. George Zimmerman was not convicted. There was no evidence to support that he wasn't defending himself, just as he said. Now, you're free to disagree with that outcome, but you are judging without knowledge. You are automatically taking the the kid's side because he was black, and you assume that Zimmerman is a racist.

The same thing has happened over and over with these stories coming out. You have KNOWN CRIMINALS who have been killed by police, who say they were defending themselves. The evidence doesn't refute their claims. This goes on every day. It has nothing to do with race. But suddenly, it's a problem.

Are there crimes committed with prejudice? Yeah. And it comes from people of every color. But this idea that racism is rampant and every time a black person dies it's because of racism, you are just playing the victim. You know how many white people die at the hands of either a white or black person everyday? No, you don't. You won't hear about, and you won't go looking for that information, because it wouldn't support your theory.

YOU come off as racist by assuming that every death of a black person is racially motivated. Maybe you are racist, maybe you're not. But that's what it looks like, and that's what's causing all this tension. The propaganda, the people who fall for it, and now you have police being shot at because people like you "think" that other cops have committed murder. Not to say that there aren't corrupt cops. But there are a LOT more corrupt people who are bringing this on themselves.
skymike and 44Champs like this.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
burningmetal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 11:25 PM   #7
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,589
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
This kind of comment is a huge part of what's wrong with America. People like me and others around here keep talking about how the media is spreading propaganda about "racism". And people just eat it up.

Your comment illustrates that. George Zimmerman was not convicted. There was no evidence to support that he wasn't defending himself, just as he said. Now, you're free to disagree with that outcome, but you are judging without knowledge. You are automatically taking the the kid's side because he was black, and you assume that Zimmerman is a racist.

The same thing has happened over and over with these stories coming out. You have KNOWN CRIMINALS who have been killed by police, who say they were defending themselves. The evidence doesn't refute their claims. This goes on every day. It has nothing to do with race. But suddenly, it's a problem.

Are there crimes committed with prejudice? Yeah. And it comes from people of every color. But this idea that racism is rampant and every time a black person dies it's because of racism, you are just playing the victim. You know how many white people die at the hands of either a white or black person everyday? No, you don't. You won't hear about, and you won't go looking for that information, because it wouldn't support your theory.

YOU come off as racist by assuming that every death of a black person is racially motivated. Maybe you are racist, maybe you're not. But that's what it looks like, and that's what's causing all this tension. The propaganda, the people who fall for it, and now you have police being shot at because people like you "think" that other cops have committed murder. Not to say that there aren't corrupt cops. But there are a LOT more corrupt people who are bringing this on themselves.
How can I like this comment more than once?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
44Champs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2016, 11:52 PM   #8
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Monroe, La
Posts: 2,627
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
This kind of comment is a huge part of what's wrong with America. People like me and others around here keep talking about how the media is spreading propaganda about "racism". And people just eat it up.

Your comment illustrates that. George Zimmerman was not convicted. There was no evidence to support that he wasn't defending himself, just as he said. Now, you're free to disagree with that outcome, but you are judging without knowledge. You are automatically taking the the kid's side because he was black, and you assume that Zimmerman is a racist.

The same thing has happened over and over with these stories coming out. You have KNOWN CRIMINALS who have been killed by police, who say they were defending themselves. The evidence doesn't refute their claims. This goes on every day. It has nothing to do with race. But suddenly, it's a problem.

Are there crimes committed with prejudice? Yeah. And it comes from people of every color. But this idea that racism is rampant and every time a black person dies it's because of racism, you are just playing the victim. You know how many white people die at the hands of either a white or black person everyday? No, you don't. You won't hear about, and you won't go looking for that information, because it wouldn't support your theory.

YOU come off as racist by assuming that every death of a black person is racially motivated. Maybe you are racist, maybe you're not. But that's what it looks like, and that's what's causing all this tension. The propaganda, the people who fall for it, and now you have police being shot at because people like you "think" that other cops have committed murder. Not to say that there aren't corrupt cops. But there are a LOT more corrupt people who are bringing this on themselves.
No evidence on O.J. Either!!

Here are some facts go do your research. These officers were set free with paid leave. You can go all the way back to Rodney King til the presence and find the injustice. By no means am I racist, more like a realist when it come to the brutatility and injustice here in America. I wish Kap, could've went with a different platform on standing against what is happening on OUR soil but at least awareness is being brought to attention. Make sure read about Walter Scott killing by Michael Slager and getting paid leave and presume innocent til a bystander video brought to light what really happen.



exiled likes this.
nola_swammi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2016, 12:13 AM   #9
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,923
Blog Entries: 3
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
No evidence on O.J. Either!!

Here are some facts go do your research. These officers were set free with paid leave. You can go all the way back to Rodney King til the presence and find the injustice. By no means am I racist, more like a realist when it come to the brutatility and injustice here in America. I wish Kap, could've went with a different platform on standing against what is happening on OUR soil but at least awareness is being brought to attention. Make sure read about Walter Scott killing by Michael Slager and getting paid leave and presume innocent til a bystander video brought to light what really happen.

https://youtu.be/LfXqYwyzQpM

https://youtu.be/DcCN5C7UBx0

https://youtu.be/XKQqgVlk0NQ
The ignorance drips from your fingertips.


No evidence on O.J? Yeah... Just a 911 recording of Nicole Simpson saying that her husband was trying to kill her. Blood stained shoe prints that matched a pair of his. Oh, and that little part where he was speeding from the cops who had "no evidence", apparently. Yeah he didn't have a guilty conscience, and justice was totally served. Am I getting through to you yet? I bet not, so let's continue.

I didn't say there weren't ANY corrupt cops. I made a point of that. But you only have these couple of videos, and then a whole boat load of of stories of cops committing "murder". You have gang violence going on all the time, and you don't want to do anything about that, but if a cop kills someone who is a known criminal, you take the side of the criminal, because he's black?

I bet you never heard of Lavoy Finicum. Why don't you watch this and tell me if white people don't get targeted. This man did nothing wrong and was stalked by police for YEARS. It was highly likely a government sanctioned strike, because this man was ACTUALLY standing up for his rights, unlike some people who just sit down.


Have a nice night.
44Champs likes this.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
burningmetal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2016, 12:15 AM   #10
E. Side Cholo
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Barrio, H-town
Posts: 6,089
Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss

You cant fix brainwash
44Champs likes this.
skymike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/nfl/79369-colin-kaepernick-discuss.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Colin Kaepernick-discuss This thread Refback 08-27-2016 08:03 PM 3


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:17 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts