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outstanding. and well said.

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THEYRE OUTRAGE, AND MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, I AM ALSO ENRAGED ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ONE SUBJECT AT A TIME OR THE SUBJECT AT HAND WILL BE LOST.

I CAN SAY YOURE APART OF THE PROBLEM AS WELL. YOU ALSO TRY TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT


YOU DONT NEED STATICS WHEN YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR THE PROBLEMS BUT IF YOU NEED STATICS Police killed more than 100 unarmed black people in 2015 YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES THAT DONT MEAN ITS GOING TO GO AWAY. GOODNIGHT, PRAY FOR YOUR ENLIGHTMENT ON THIS MATTER AND RESOLUTION CAN COME SO WE AS NATION CAN GROW

THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER

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5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks

BY: AARON BANDLER JULY 7, 2016

Here are five key statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks.



1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to Mac Donald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

"If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said Mac Donald in her Hillsdale speech.


3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

Mac Donald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what Mac Donald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

Anti-police rhetoric has deadly consequences.

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AARON BANDLER

where is his evidence?

If he was to say Obama was a great president ALL of you conservatives will treat him like he had the plague, laughing so hard that you quick to listen to RHETORIC instead of doing your own homework. Hey, that's your RIGHT. Makes me wonder why AARON BANDLER'S followers even watch football. Don't they know 68% African-American play in the NFL


BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)


•Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting


•37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population


•Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015


•Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.

THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER

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Pssst, your racism is showing:dunce:

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laughing my racism, you the one mention AARON BANDLER, nothing I said is racism

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1. Keith Childress, 12/31/15


Las Vegas, NV: The U.S. Marshals were conducting surveillance on the man and requested help from Metro when he fled. When police caught up with him, they claimed he had an "unknown object" in his hand. Assuming it was a gun, they shot him dead. The object turned out to be a cellphone.

No officers were charged with a crime for killing Keith.

THIS OFFICER NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MURDER

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Once again you pick a winner

Walter Scott
Portrait photo of Walter Scott in U.S. Coast Guard uniform with an American flag partially visible in the background.
Scott during his service in the U.S. Coast Guard in the mid-1980s
Walter Lamar Scott (February 9, 1965 – April 4, 2015),[2] a 50-year-old black man, was a forklift operator, studying massage therapy. Scott previously served two years in the U.S. Coast Guard before being given a general discharge in 1986 for a drug-related incident.

Scott’s police record listed ten arrests: for contempt of court regarding failure to pay child support or to appear for court hearings; he was arrested in 1987 on an assault and battery charge and convicted in 1991 for possession of a bludgeon.

Had a warrent for his arrest, and reached for the officers Taser. Another bright guy with with a bright future,lol.

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Once again you pick a winner

Walter Scott
Portrait photo of Walter Scott in U.S. Coast Guard uniform with an American flag partially visible in the background.
Scott during his service in the U.S. Coast Guard in the mid-1980s
Walter Lamar Scott (February 9, 1965 – April 4, 2015),[2] a 50-year-old black man, was a forklift operator, studying massage therapy. Scott previously served two years in the U.S. Coast Guard before being given a general discharge in 1986 for a drug-related incident.

Scott’s police record listed ten arrests: for contempt of court regarding failure to pay child support or to appear for court hearings; he was arrested in 1987 on an assault and battery charge and convicted in 1991 for possession of a bludgeon.

Had a warrent for his arrest, and reached for the officers Taser. Another bright guy with with a bright future,lol.
Your just a Racist with a single track mind that leads nowhere and solves nothing.
Like Rodney King, this is your shining example of the black community ? This is your victim ?
When you start not looking at black and white race and start wondering why he was in that park and like an adolescent kid put the officer in the position where he had to make a decission grabbing for his weapon and running off like a complete idiot, putting himself in danger because his history shows hes a moron, then text when your not just part of the problem. Its Called bad parenting, 12.8% doing 50% of the crime, and a break down of a community. This is a 50 year old acting like a 15 year old which is typical.
In my opinion every officer has the right to shoot with lethal force any person that reached for their weapon.

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I'm not gonna mention any names but someone here should just move on over to the other site. He'll fit in better there.

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If you don't respect my flag get the Hell out of my country. Apparently he only wants the civil liberties we provide. :argue:

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Really so you voted for Obama because he was the best guy for the job and not because hes black? He wasnt the best.
I talked to mutable black friends that ask friends of them. They didnt know a thing about about Obama, but Obama got 92% of the black vote, and you call whites voting for only whites rasicist? Blacks voted for Obama for his color. They didnt know or care anything about him, just he's black.
Thats not good and everyone knows it.

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... he APPEARS black. He's half white, and has never lived in a black neighborhood, but rather grew up privileged. I'm more Ghetto than he is.

But people who obsess with skin color fell all over themselves over him, because he appears black... He could have just as easily been born with red hair and freckles.

I truly do not give a **** what color anyone is. I care about their character.

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damn, y'all twisted this from calling me racist which i am not, to bashing a dead man and praising a killer. Laughing so hard at y'all clowns, .SOON the stadium will be covered with people kneeling and I am not saying it will be players only.

Although I believe he is a GREAT POTUS, I didn't vote for him because of my religon, I might be wrong, condemn me if you may, that's your RIGHT! It really didn't matter if I voted for him this a republican state.

Anyways talking you ingnorant folks is mentally exhausting, I will be back in the corners reading updates on the saints. Continue believing or being close minded, I seen that Kap's protest did come across, so I am pleased

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So if you're not racist (you are), tell me and the rest here WHY you voted for such an inexperienced man to be President. He wasn't the most qualified. Not by a very long shot. You liked his personality, maybe? What made you think a back-bencher with a background in community organizing who was mentored by communists would be the best President, considering he was up against some very well-seasoned opposition? Wanna see who's 'ignorant'? Go ahead and answer and we'll see who's 'ignorant'. You voted for him based on race. You know it. I know it. Everybody posting here knows it. Your friends know it too. We all know it. You'd have to be ignorant to think we didn't know it. Black people who'd never voted in their lives appeared out of nowhere, others came back from dead, just to vote for a black man. Don't tell me I'm wrong. Prove I'm wrong. Of course you're a racist.

Oh and hold your breath waiting to see a stadium full of people kneeling during the National Anthem. Let me know how long you hold it before you either die or give up.

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Guys - I love all of your comments. Well said by all. In addition to being disrespectful of the country that raised him, he shows his immaturity and ignorance of the facts. A large percentage of the black Americans who are being shot either have a weapon in their hands or point it at the Police. CK and nearly all of the left wing political pundents on the airwaves NEVER mention that. They act as if all of these people are innocent victims. Where's the discussion on that??? Boz

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I'll try not to repeat myself. Sorry if I have repeat somethings to remake my point since we have new information of who is sitting out now.
This is the easy way to protest anything and also ,a very childish way.

These guys need to just think . Take a minute and think.
So Kaepernick and some of his team will do this stunt again.
Ok.
Where has it gotten their cause and themselves?
No where!
If they think , think , well they will be sitting down this game and every game , LOL.

9/11 anniversary coinsides with start of 2016 NFL season.

Sooner or later, I predict these guys will experiences backlash from the public.
A rule of being in the public eye is do not think , ever think, you are all that and the people will be your fan. HA!!
Media is the first to always turn.

Now the TEAM of SeatleS is suppose to sit down.
Some guy there has been saying they will do this as a team.
I would think, hope RussellW and JimmyG have more sense than this.
We do not know who will sit down and not bow to peer pressure.
How old these adult , big men who make millions of dollars?
Acting like 13 year olds!

Sooooooo sitting down today, 9/11 anniversary and big names with a good rep like RussellW sitting down and all his millions, ummmmm. This is not going to be good for him and his team.

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I wonder how much of his $20MM net worth Kaeprnick has used to help the oppressed? Has he started a company amd created any jobs? Has he created any charities for the oppressed? If not, he really shouldnt be sitting. He needs to get off his ass and do something more than his stupid protest.

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No. He starting dating a BLM hottie and turned Muslim. That 1 mil he gave will a nice tax write off make. People are so stupid, and I'm not talking about Colin. He has followers now. LOL People are stupid.

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I'm still waiting for proof of the so called "Oppression" by this Nation aimed at blacks in America.

I'm sure I'll still be waiting tomorrow, and next week, and the week after for a valid explanation.

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Oppression? Kap likely can't spell it, much less define it. Colin is nothing more than a mouthpiece for his lady. She is the puppet master and why all these 'oppressed' people don't see that is a question I don't have the degrees to answer.

But hey, there's a flag on his helmet. Rekon he should play without it. If he plays. Cause he sucks anyway. Patience Patriots. His 15 minutes will expire soon enough.

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Thought this was interesting.
Even if you dont agree with it all there are some interesting pointd made (well there is to a outsider like me. Not living over there i obviously see things a little differently. We dont have the same amount of armed police, armed offenders etc so its obviously different for me)

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Just an FYI, did anyone notice Danny Amendola actually helped the flag crew hold up the flag during the Anthem?

I am now a huge Amendola fan.

Danny Amendola Lends A Hand, Grabs Hold Of Flag During National Anthem | New England Patriots | NESN.com

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsHQ54gW8AERrYz.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsHQ54nWEAE4iaW.jpg


F*** Colin Kaepernick, that Squidward looking Rosa Parks wannabe.

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I do wonder if this has spiralled far further than Kaepernick expected. I think its gone over the tipping point that he can step back from.

Dont get me wrong i dont feel sorry for him. If you want to make a stand (personally i have no issue doing this,whatever its about) you have to take the consequences what ever they may be

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Just ask Natalie Maines. Before you go f-up your life, be sure you know what you're talking about.
-- Basically Kaepernick, with his anti-police comments, told young people, and black people that the police are their enemy. The people who should be angriest with him are black mothers of teenaged boys, right behind the wives of police officers of EVERY race.
He has sentenced a number yet to be determined to death, with his ignorance.

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Many other players around the league did the same thing - far more than those morons who 'took a knee' and disrespected our Nation's fallen.

And I'm not sure if the speech Jerry Jones gave is true, but if so I like it.

And Colin DOES look like Squidward. :p

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Meanwhile somewhere in Texas...

http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/in...ational-anthem

Injured player takes a stand on national anthem debate - Story | KDFW

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Hearing on Sports Radio out here that a growing number of 49ers are quite less than pleased with this mess yet another racist (Kaepernick) has started.

It was said, as an example, that after their game (30 minutes after) Kaepernick was holding court in the locker room and has a few people gathered around. Several players walked by and one of them said as he passed, "Hey! You know there was a ****ing football game here today!"

Now I don't go 'round wishing bad things on folks, but I'd like to see Hillary embarrassed in public and finally have to admit she's full of ****, and I'd like to see Colin's NFL career keep on fading to gray. Hopefully a little faster.

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Well I haven't read all 20 pages of this thread, but it seems to me all that the kneeling during anthem seems to be bringing attention to is the fact that they are kneeling during the anthem. Not a racially driven discussion in any way. I don't agree with it, I think it is disrespectful.

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Can anyone name a better nation on earth right now?

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A better nation for what?

Every country is up and down on different issues. America has many great points on the other side you have huge health and education costs that others dont have. You also have many benefits and lower costs that others dont have

All swings in round a bouts for me. If you live in either the US/Canada or the larger European nations,possibly Japan you are doing far better than most

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For freedom, liberty and human rights for all especially considering the diverse demographics we have.

Is their a country as racially diverse as we are that has a better human rights record that we do? It easy if you're a homogeneous nation, not so much if you have as many diverse cultures as we have, or the population that we have.

I'd be very interested to know which Nation you think is more accepting of diversity than America is.

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Maybe i got the wrong drift of what you were saying.

Im purely talking of places to live hence the focus on medical care and education. Obviously you have great hospitals and colleges,but im talking costs. If you couldn't afford medical insurance or were fully covered by work how much debt would you have occured had you had my illness last year. 7 months/5 hospitals/multiple ops/stomach drains/heavy drugs etc it would have crippled people from what i have read. Especially as its left me needing life long medication for diabetes and another op.


Of course for rights and acceptance you are at least as good as anyone in the world. But id say its the same here. Forget what that idiot on fox said about not being able to walk round some cities and muslim gangs beating people up for not living by islamic laws its pure BS. Of course there are dangerous areas were isnt there. But we have a big population(considering the size of the country) of Eastern Europeans,Afro Carribeans,Asians (mostly India/Pakistan) and have very few issues.

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Yep. That's precisely what many people who support his "cause" keep missing. All you hear on TV is "look at how many people are talking about it. It must be working". These people are either really ignorant, or too cowardly to call him out and expose how useless this crap has been. I think it's a lot of both.

Because what they all fail to mention is that people aren't talking about how to change anything. They are all talking about how dumb and disrespectful it is. And the other side (black lives matter) just keeps saying the same things they've been saying since long before Colin decided to take his customary place on the bench, during the Anthem. None of those people are offering any ideas, and they are all ignoring the statistics that show there is far from racial bias in any sort homicidal category you want to look at.

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God Bless America. But, my impression of Colin and him not standing is a simple indication that he really doesn't stand for anything. Except Colin.

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