Colin Kaepernick-discuss

A.8Manning · 09-02-2016, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Guy, your interpretation of what has meaning and what doesn't is completely your own. I didn't make any of these things mean what they do. They mean something to everyone in here except you. People have differing opinions on whether sitting or standing is acceptable, but people all have an opinion on what the flag represents, based on how they feel they've been treated by this country.

If it isn't a protest to sit during the anthem, then why does Colin Kaepernick specifically acknowledge that he is protesting? So you get to decide what is a protest and what isn't, I guess?

How is this thread not for you, you ask? Because we're all talking about it and you're saying it means nothing, and that you don't care. So why are you here? I don't worship the flag, nobody does. The anthem is something that's meant for people to stand together as Americans. I didn't create that meaning. Read the words of the song.

But Colin doesn't want to stand with America because he thinks, or his movement thinks, that America is oppressing "his people". And that's where this argument began. If you say you stand for something, you better have knowledge for that which you stand. He comes across as very small minded and uninformed. He's a follower.

And the example I gave with the moment of silence absolutely pertains to the subject. Because it's something that you can't quantify it's meaning, but yet it means something to a lot of people.

The flag is no different. It's the same exact principle. It means nothing to YOU. When did you get the impression that anyone needed your permission to recognize a meaning of something, or what it represents?

Maybe if you fought in a war and watched your friends die in the name of freedom, you would have taken pride in sticking that flag in the ground when it was all over, announcing that the war was over and America was free. But that's all silly talk, because you and I weren't there, right?

Well I give a damn. And I don't apologize.

{{Guy, your interpretation of what has meaning and what doesn't is completely your own.}}

wrong,..its the fact that people buy into something being important that is not. media and govt portrayed to you that national pride is supposed to be a thing. Its a false reality created by people in power. God does not care who is waving what ever flag.

people dying in wars have/has nothing to do with national pride.
War was created by propaganda you choose to believe. It doesnt matter who died in what country,its all bad regardless.

you think people died for freedom because media told you thats why.
we have no freedom. A system was designed that forces you to get jobs to pay off debts. You have to live to work instead of working to live.
your work day causes you to be nothing but be tired so you watch a boob tube and believe everything you are told.Medical is now supposed to be a privilege instead of something we should all get without question.

this is the dumbest crap ever and its on national news. people are wasting time debating a dumb jock and saluting a flag.. I'm being redundant.
the fact I said this was Orwellian should have sunk in.
I dont need to be seen in public saluting a flag to prove I care about soldiers or dead soldiers. Its a waste of time talking about it. Its a waste of reality to think it means anything. They have to make people believe its for freedom so they tolerate being told to go die.

you dont get my simple concept because you believe everything media tells you.
its the perfect storm of stupidity. A stupid picture of a kid sitting during the national anthem..he says he's being pro black and anti police and boom,then someone has to bring up military and not saluting a flag means not respecting military and he happens to be playing a large military city in san diego and the announcers have to make sure they repeatedly say that he didnt do it properly during national anthem.
its the most pointless crap on earth but because it was on tv,everyone thinks its important.....

ok lol, no more about this. Thank you,have a nice day

09-02-2016, 07:39 AM	#11
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: Colin Kaepernick-discuss Originally Posted by burningmetal Guy, your interpretation of what has meaning and what doesn't is completely your own. I didn't make any of these things mean what they do. They mean something to everyone in here except you. People have differing opinions on whether sitting or standing is acceptable, but people all have an opinion on what the flag represents, based on how they feel they've been treated by this country. If it isn't a protest to sit during the anthem, then why does Colin Kaepernick specifically acknowledge that he is protesting? So you get to decide what is a protest and what isn't, I guess? How is this thread not for you, you ask? Because we're all talking about it and you're saying it means nothing, and that you don't care. So why are you here? I don't worship the flag, nobody does. The anthem is something that's meant for people to stand together as Americans. I didn't create that meaning. Read the words of the song. But Colin doesn't want to stand with America because he thinks, or his movement thinks, that America is oppressing "his people". And that's where this argument began. If you say you stand for something, you better have knowledge for that which you stand. He comes across as very small minded and uninformed. He's a follower. And the example I gave with the moment of silence absolutely pertains to the subject. Because it's something that you can't quantify it's meaning, but yet it means something to a lot of people. The flag is no different. It's the same exact principle. It means nothing to YOU. When did you get the impression that anyone needed your permission to recognize a meaning of something, or what it represents? Maybe if you fought in a war and watched your friends die in the name of freedom, you would have taken pride in sticking that flag in the ground when it was all over, announcing that the war was over and America was free. But that's all silly talk, because you and I weren't there, right? Well I give a damn. And I don't apologize. {{Guy, your interpretation of what has meaning and what doesn't is completely your own.}} wrong,..its the fact that people buy into something being important that is not. media and govt portrayed to you that national pride is supposed to be a thing. Its a false reality created by people in power. God does not care who is waving what ever flag. people dying in wars have/has nothing to do with national pride. War was created by propaganda you choose to believe. It doesnt matter who died in what country,its all bad regardless. you think people died for freedom because media told you thats why. we have no freedom. A system was designed that forces you to get jobs to pay off debts. You have to live to work instead of working to live. your work day causes you to be nothing but be tired so you watch a boob tube and believe everything you are told.Medical is now supposed to be a privilege instead of something we should all get without question. this is the dumbest crap ever and its on national news. people are wasting time debating a dumb jock and saluting a flag.. I'm being redundant. the fact I said this was Orwellian should have sunk in. I dont need to be seen in public saluting a flag to prove I care about soldiers or dead soldiers. Its a waste of time talking about it. Its a waste of reality to think it means anything. They have to make people believe its for freedom so they tolerate being told to go die. you dont get my simple concept because you believe everything media tells you. its the perfect storm of stupidity. A stupid picture of a kid sitting during the national anthem..he says he's being pro black and anti police and boom,then someone has to bring up military and not saluting a flag means not respecting military and he happens to be playing a large military city in san diego and the announcers have to make sure they repeatedly say that he didnt do it properly during national anthem. its the most pointless crap on earth but because it was on tv,everyone thinks its important..... ok lol, no more about this. Thank you,have a nice day
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