The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 01:04 AM

I no longer watch the games. Only highlights and track my fantasy scores. I have been doing this for several years. I do attend a couple of games but likely won't be doing that anymore. The sport is dying. It's dying ever year slowly but surely. It has nothing to do with "hip hop", kneeling, or the N word. People just don't care anymore. The brain damage is real. Parents don't want the sport. It's going to die.

foreverfan · 09-25-2017, 07:34 AM

BUT THE QUESTION OF THE DAY WAS....
what did George Soros paid the NFL to make people sit down for the national anthem.

vpheughan · 09-25-2017, 11:34 AM

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pinch · 09-25-2017, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Goodel is doing exactly what he's being paid to do. Focus all the attention on himself. Magicians use "misdirection" all the time. "Pay no attention those owners behind the curtain pulling his strings"

In every other industry, employees are a representation of their employer and if you do something disrespectful while representing the employer you are subject to repercussions. We're all supposed to pretend like the rule doesn't apply in this scenario because it wouldn't be PC to do so. The media has created a climate where supporting the President or being overly-patriotic is toxic.

The owners are in a tough spot because they will be strung-up by the media if they dare to take a stance against these players. The fans now have a chance to voice their disapproval by not supporting the league. In the end, everyone will suffer.

But IMO, this is exactly what these players are trying to accomplish through their protest.

These players feel that their people being wronged and disrespected, so they feel they are just returning the favor. They will in turn piss off veterans, which will in turn piss off white people, who will then turn on the league, whose owners will be hit in the pocketbook.

In this way they achieve their goal of making everyone marginalized.

Don't be fooled into thinking it has any other goal. Their point was made long ago, it's not even about that anymore.

It's payback.

pinch · 09-25-2017, 03:42 PM

For those of you wondering how this will all end.

I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms.

Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing.

That's just my prediction.

Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two.

saintfan · 09-25-2017, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

For those of you wondering how this will all end.

I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms.

Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing.

That's just my prediction.

Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two.

You can make a certain and safe bet that the marketing department of the NFL is pulling all-nighters that much is for sure.

Your prediction is a likely as any - the NFL will not approach this in any other way outside their bottom line end game. That's why the whole thing is so silly.

Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 05:16 PM

NFL is in a no win situation. On one hand, the anthem, flag, tribute to Veterans, police and first responders are a big part of the "NFL" experience. On the other, ant-anthem, flag haters, Veteran haters and police haters are an increasingly bigger percentage of their employees and the media in general. Staying in the locker room is likely the best solution right now for all teams. It eliminates the visual of the problem and silences the kneelers. Out of sight out of mind. Back to business.

pinch · 09-25-2017, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

NFL is in a no win situation. On one hand, the anthem, flag, tribute to Veterans, police and first responders are a big part of the "NFL" experience. On the other, ant-anthem, flag haters, Veteran haters and police haters are an increasingly bigger percentage of their employees and the media in general. Staying in the locker room is likely the best solution right now for all teams. It eliminates the visual of the problem and silences the kneelers. Out of sight out of mind. Back to business.

Or maybe even just get rid of the song altogether?

I just read that Jesse Jackson has joined the list of people pushing for a boycott. You know what that means.

Halo · 09-25-2017, 05:34 PM

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Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 05:35 PM

Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.

09-25-2017, 01:04 AM	#31
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer I no longer watch the games. Only highlights and track my fantasy scores. I have been doing this for several years. I do attend a couple of games but likely won't be doing that anymore. The sport is dying. It's dying ever year slowly but surely. It has nothing to do with "hip hop", kneeling, or the N word. People just don't care anymore. The brain damage is real. Parents don't want the sport. It's going to die.
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09-25-2017, 03:13 PM	#34
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by vpheughan Goodel is doing exactly what he's being paid to do. Focus all the attention on himself. Magicians use "misdirection" all the time. "Pay no attention those owners behind the curtain pulling his strings" In every other industry, employees are a representation of their employer and if you do something disrespectful while representing the employer you are subject to repercussions. We're all supposed to pretend like the rule doesn't apply in this scenario because it wouldn't be PC to do so. The media has created a climate where supporting the President or being overly-patriotic is toxic. The owners are in a tough spot because they will be strung-up by the media if they dare to take a stance against these players. The fans now have a chance to voice their disapproval by not supporting the league. In the end, everyone will suffer. But IMO, this is exactly what these players are trying to accomplish through their protest. These players feel that their people being wronged and disrespected, so they feel they are just returning the favor. They will in turn piss off veterans, which will in turn piss off white people, who will then turn on the league, whose owners will be hit in the pocketbook. In this way they achieve their goal of making everyone marginalized. Don't be fooled into thinking it has any other goal. Their point was made long ago, it's not even about that anymore. It's payback.
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09-25-2017, 03:42 PM	#35
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer For those of you wondering how this will all end. I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms. Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing. That's just my prediction. Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by pinch For those of you wondering how this will all end. I foresee this continuing on for a week or two, with TV viewership (and more importantly, related NFL sales) continuing to decline. This will drive the media as a stand-off of sorts beings to form: pissed-off fans versus the league. Owners' hands will be tied as will have no choice but to stand with the players who wear the uniforms. Eventually, when things get bad enough, I see the man who started this whole thing stepping in and calling an end to the protests. Kaepernick will come out with some BS about how this whole thing created a dialog which is what his original goal was. He'll be hailed as a hero and uniter by the league and the media and we'll all be expected to be participants in the healing. That's just my prediction. Seeing as the league's response to this whole mess was closely coordinated across all teams, I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an agreement in place for all players to begin standing starting next week. I think they understand the blow back from this won't be good for who they see as their slave masters. If an agreement already isn't in place, I think one will quickly be formed after a week or two. You can make a certain and safe bet that the marketing department of the NFL is pulling all-nighters that much is for sure. Your prediction is a likely as any - the NFL will not approach this in any other way outside their bottom line end game. That's why the whole thing is so silly. Beastmode likes this.

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pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by Beastmode NFL is in a no win situation. On one hand, the anthem, flag, tribute to Veterans, police and first responders are a big part of the "NFL" experience. On the other, ant-anthem, flag haters, Veteran haters and police haters are an increasingly bigger percentage of their employees and the media in general. Staying in the locker room is likely the best solution right now for all teams. It eliminates the visual of the problem and silences the kneelers. Out of sight out of mind. Back to business. Or maybe even just get rid of the song altogether? I just read that Jesse Jackson has joined the list of people pushing for a boycott. You know what that means.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.
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