The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 04:35 PM

Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.

pinch · 09-25-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.

I have a feeling that's on the back-burner.

Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 05:13 PM

We have a problem in this country with following rules recently. If you don't like the rule then change it.

The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

saintfan · 09-25-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

We have a problem in this country with following rules recently. If you don't like the rule then change it.

The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's your right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done.

Simple. Problem solved.

pinch · 09-25-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's you're right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done.

Simple. Problem solved.

Honestley, I don't see how that is any different from what is currently happening.

saintfan · 09-25-2017, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

Honestley, I don't see how that is any different from what is currently happening.

People have a right to be whatever they want to be, but not in my front yard. That's the place I'm trying to go.

They have every right not to stand, but they don't (necessarily) have the right to broadcast it (so to speak).

Beastmode · 09-25-2017, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's your right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done.

Simple. Problem solved.

I was fine with that until the head coach degraded the LT former Army Ranger who decided he wanted to salute and be out there. From that point it fell apart. You have to respect everyone and leave your own personal beliefs internal when it comes to this stuff. The coach failed and ruined the whole thing.

Danno · 09-25-2017, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

We have a problem in this country with following rules

Following rules like obeying the law?

I think the main problem with today's minorities is precisely that. They don't follow rules.

When 70% of minority children are raised by baby mommas, they don't get a solid dose of Dads demanding they follow rules. If I didn't follow the rules my Dad would smack me upside the head.

Way too many people nowadays don't have a Dad to teach that. Thats why you have a nation of hood-Rats who don't have a clue how they should act and they behave like children when a Cop intervenes because they broke rules (laws).

The destruction of the family unit (Liberalism's fault) is the primary reason so many people are defiant when it comes to obeying rules and personal responsibility. They are simply ignorant of both.

burningmetal · 09-25-2017, 05:33 PM

I don't know, I thought the teams that stayed in the locker room were just as bad, if not worse. It's not the same as protesting elsewhere, instead of at the game. They are in the stadium, they are expected to be out there standing for the anthem, and yet decided to ignore the whole ceremony.

And when their teammate went out there by himself, they should have followed him. He fought for this country, and yet not one person was moved enough to join him. I don't buy this crap about them being "surprised" by him not staying in the locker room. They had no right to tell him he had to do that, and Mike Tomlin had the nerve to CRITICIZE him. So much for their phony free speech excuse for everything they do. Free speech (which doesn't even apply to the work place, anyway) apparently only works if you feel sorry for yourself.

saintfan · 09-25-2017, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I don't know, I thought the teams that stayed in the locker room were just as bad, if not worse. It's not the same as protesting elsewhere, instead of at the game. They are in the stadium, they are expected to be out there standing for the anthem, and yet decided to ignore the whole ceremony.

And when their teammate went out there by himself, they should have followed him. He fought for this country, and yet not one person was moved enough to join him. I don't buy this crap about them being "surprised" by him not staying in the locker room. They had no right to tell him he had to do that, and Mike Tomlin had the nerve to CRITICIZE him. So much for their phony free speech excuse for everything they do. Free speech (which doesn't even apply to the work place, anyway) apparently only works if you feel sorry for yourself.

If the players want to create their own platform then rock it. Protest whatever you want and try to affect a change in that thing.

But it is wrong to use the platform created by fans of the National Football League, in my very own humble opinion, to broadcast those grievances.

09-25-2017, 04:35 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it.
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09-25-2017, 04:36 PM	#2
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by Beastmode Need to find out what is going on in Chicago with all the black on black murders. That situation is out of control. If that takes kneeling at the National Anthem to get things going I am all for it. I have a feeling that's on the back-burner. Beastmode likes this.

09-25-2017, 05:13 PM	#3
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer We have a problem in this country with following rules recently. If you don't like the rule then change it. The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual: The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses. saintfan and Ashley like this.
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09-25-2017, 05:22 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by Beastmode We have a problem in this country with following rules recently. If you don't like the rule then change it. The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual: The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses. I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's your right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done. Simple. Problem solved. Beastmode likes this.
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09-25-2017, 05:25 PM	#5
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by saintfan I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's you're right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done. Simple. Problem solved. Honestley, I don't see how that is any different from what is currently happening.

09-25-2017, 05:26 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by pinch Honestley, I don't see how that is any different from what is currently happening. People have a right to be whatever they want to be, but not in my front yard. That's the place I'm trying to go. They have every right not to stand, but they don't (necessarily) have the right to broadcast it (so to speak).

09-25-2017, 08:32 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by saintfan I still like what the Steelers did. If you want to come stand then come stand, but if you don't (and that's your right as an American) then stay inside until the anthem is done. Simple. Problem solved. I was fine with that until the head coach degraded the LT former Army Ranger who decided he wanted to salute and be out there. From that point it fell apart. You have to respect everyone and leave your own personal beliefs internal when it comes to this stuff. The coach failed and ruined the whole thing.
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09-25-2017, 06:44 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by Beastmode We have a problem in this country with following rules Following rules like obeying the law? I think the main problem with today's minorities is precisely that. They don't follow rules. When 70% of minority children are raised by baby mommas, they don't get a solid dose of Dads demanding they follow rules. If I didn't follow the rules my Dad would smack me upside the head. Way too many people nowadays don't have a Dad to teach that. Thats why you have a nation of hood-Rats who don't have a clue how they should act and they behave like children when a Cop intervenes because they broke rules (laws). The destruction of the family unit (Liberalism's fault) is the primary reason so many people are defiant when it comes to obeying rules and personal responsibility. They are simply ignorant of both.

09-25-2017, 05:33 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer I don't know, I thought the teams that stayed in the locker room were just as bad, if not worse. It's not the same as protesting elsewhere, instead of at the game. They are in the stadium, they are expected to be out there standing for the anthem, and yet decided to ignore the whole ceremony. And when their teammate went out there by himself, they should have followed him. He fought for this country, and yet not one person was moved enough to join him. I don't buy this crap about them being "surprised" by him not staying in the locker room. They had no right to tell him he had to do that, and Mike Tomlin had the nerve to CRITICIZE him. So much for their phony free speech excuse for everything they do. Free speech (which doesn't even apply to the work place, anyway) apparently only works if you feel sorry for yourself. pinch likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-25-2017, 05:38 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't know, I thought the teams that stayed in the locker room were just as bad, if not worse. It's not the same as protesting elsewhere, instead of at the game. They are in the stadium, they are expected to be out there standing for the anthem, and yet decided to ignore the whole ceremony. And when their teammate went out there by himself, they should have followed him. He fought for this country, and yet not one person was moved enough to join him. I don't buy this crap about them being "surprised" by him not staying in the locker room. They had no right to tell him he had to do that, and Mike Tomlin had the nerve to CRITICIZE him. So much for their phony free speech excuse for everything they do. Free speech (which doesn't even apply to the work place, anyway) apparently only works if you feel sorry for yourself. If the players want to create their own platform then rock it. Protest whatever you want and try to affect a change in that thing. But it is wrong to use the platform created by fans of the National Football League, in my very own humble opinion, to broadcast those grievances.