The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

rezburna · 09-25-2017, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I am not making false equivalencies, I am making a clear point. You sit there and make a claim that "countless things have been invented by black people" who haven't been given credit, yet you have nothing to back it up.

You are just assuming that everything is a rip-off and that no one can take part in your "culture" by playing music that comes from it. So, if that's your opinion, then don't partake of the things that you or "your people" didn't create.

Now I am sure there are instances of black people having invented something, without being given credit. The same thing goes for whites. For instance, the man who invented the phone, Antonio Meucci, was ripped off by the patent office, among others, and the credit went to someone else who came along five years later using Meucci's technology. He was later kind of given unofficial credit by some, but was already dead.

If you don't have the money, especially in the old days, you could get outbid for patents, or just get screwed for some type of political reason, and it didn't matter what color you were.

Bring some facts, friend.

It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.

burningmetal · 09-25-2017, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.

It isn't my fault that you don't know the first thing about white history, or oppression. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. I back up my statements. All you are doing is saying "we get nothing, everyone rips us off", and you have no idea how many blacks or whites have been denied patents. You just hear about a few black people getting screwed by whoever, and you make your assumptions from there.

burningmetal · 09-25-2017, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.

What inventions are those? If it's so well known? What were they inventing in the plantations? What resources would they have had to invent much of anything?

WHODATINCA · 09-25-2017, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

What inventions are those? If it's so well known? What were they inventing in the plantations? What resources would they have had to invent much of anything?

5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office

Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents

Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821.

Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters.

But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture.

saintfan · 09-25-2017, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office

Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents

Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821.

Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters.

But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture.

Most white people are ignorant about black culture? Oh my.

Would you suggest then that most black people are ignorant of white culture or is this a one-way street you're peddling down?

rezburna · 09-25-2017, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Most white people are ignorant about black culture? Oh my.

Would you suggest then that most black people are ignorant of white culture or is this a one-way street you're peddling down?

We're not allowed to be. We go to school and learn about White culture everyday, all day.

WHODATINCA · 09-25-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We're not allowed to be. We go to school and learn about White culture everyday, all day.

Right? I sure didn't learn about the contributions of black people in school. Nope. Mostly, I learned that they were the victims of white culture and then got "uppity" in the 50s and 60s.

But, I am a compassionate white woman so I felt empathy for their plight. I hope they felt empathy for mine because I sure needed it.

rezburna · 09-25-2017, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office

Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents

Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821.

Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters.

But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture.

I'm sure you found that with a quick Google search but of course, we have to do the research for them.

WHODATINCA · 09-25-2017, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'm sure you found that with a quick Google search but of course, we have to do the research for them.

Exactly. Because they want to stay ignorant. I am so sick of it.

It stinks of mostly white, but definitely, economic privilege up in here.

burningmetal · 09-25-2017, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office

Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents

Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821.

Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters.

But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture.

Assumptions? Excuse me? What assumptions did I make?

I asked a simple question. You gave a list of a small number of slaves who invented something. And I'm not saying this to insinuate that they were stupid. They were slaves, so I don't expect that they would invent much, considering they were enslaved.

But how many other people do you think are denied patents or get screwed in some other way? Why don't you read this for a little perspective on the challenges on getting your inventions through https://www.wired.com/2013/04/gov-se...rs-on-patents/

This isn't a black issue. It's just an issue, PERIOD. Now, of course in the days of slavery, those slaves didn't have rights. But the President of the Confederacy enacted that law to protect their patent rights. Were you going to skip over that? No one is denying the wrong that was done with slavery. It's this idea that no other "race" or civilization has ever gone through anything, and the world owes black people everything, that is a total fantasy. This country has come a long way from those days, and where you can find instances of black oppression, you can find just as many for whites.

People are struggling all over the world with various things. But what do you care? Only black history matters to you, right?

09-25-2017, 07:47 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by burningmetal I am not making false equivalencies, I am making a clear point. You sit there and make a claim that "countless things have been invented by black people" who haven't been given credit, yet you have nothing to back it up. You are just assuming that everything is a rip-off and that no one can take part in your "culture" by playing music that comes from it. So, if that's your opinion, then don't partake of the things that you or "your people" didn't create. Now I am sure there are instances of black people having invented something, without being given credit. The same thing goes for whites. For instance, the man who invented the phone, Antonio Meucci, was ripped off by the patent office, among others, and the credit went to someone else who came along five years later using Meucci's technology. He was later kind of given unofficial credit by some, but was already dead. If you don't have the money, especially in the old days, you could get outbid for patents, or just get screwed for some type of political reason, and it didn't matter what color you were. Bring some facts, friend. It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended.

09-25-2017, 07:51 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended. It isn't my fault that you don't know the first thing about white history, or oppression. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. I back up my statements. All you are doing is saying "we get nothing, everyone rips us off", and you have no idea how many blacks or whites have been denied patents. You just hear about a few black people getting screwed by whoever, and you make your assumptions from there.

09-25-2017, 07:53 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna It's not my fault if you never took the time to research what was invented by Black people that was denied patent or simply accredited to a slave master. Google it. These things aren't hard to find. Its a widely accepted fact that slave masters took credit for the inventions of their slaves. That alone muddies the waters of who contributed what...no pun intended. What inventions are those? If it's so well known? What were they inventing in the plantations? What resources would they have had to invent much of anything?

09-25-2017, 07:59 PM	#4
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by burningmetal What inventions are those? If it's so well known? What were they inventing in the plantations? What resources would they have had to invent much of anything? 5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821. Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters. But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture. rezburna likes this.

09-25-2017, 08:00 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by WHODATINCA 5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821. Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters. But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture. Most white people are ignorant about black culture? Oh my. Would you suggest then that most black people are ignorant of white culture or is this a one-way street you're peddling down?

09-25-2017, 08:02 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by saintfan Most white people are ignorant about black culture? Oh my. Would you suggest then that most black people are ignorant of white culture or is this a one-way street you're peddling down? We're not allowed to be. We go to school and learn about White culture everyday, all day. WHODATINCA likes this.

09-25-2017, 08:09 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna We're not allowed to be. We go to school and learn about White culture everyday, all day. Right? I sure didn't learn about the contributions of black people in school. Nope. Mostly, I learned that they were the victims of white culture and then got "uppity" in the 50s and 60s. But, I am a compassionate white woman so I felt empathy for their plight. I hope they felt empathy for mine because I sure needed it. rezburna likes this.

09-25-2017, 08:03 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by WHODATINCA 5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821. Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters. But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture. I'm sure you found that with a quick Google search but of course, we have to do the research for them.

09-25-2017, 08:05 PM	#9
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by rezburna I'm sure you found that with a quick Google search but of course, we have to do the research for them. Exactly. Because they want to stay ignorant. I am so sick of it. It stinks of mostly white, but definitely, economic privilege up in here. rezburna likes this.

09-25-2017, 08:57 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by WHODATINCA 5 Inventions by Enslaved Black Men Blocked by US Patent Office Black History Month: Inventions Made by Black Slaves Denied Patents Thomas Jennings, the first black patent holder, who invented dry cleaning in 1821. Benjamin Montgomery, born into slavery in 1819, invented a steamboat propeller designed for shallow waters. But, your assumption just shows you how ignorant mostly white people are about black culture. Assumptions? Excuse me? What assumptions did I make? I asked a simple question. You gave a list of a small number of slaves who invented something. And I'm not saying this to insinuate that they were stupid. They were slaves, so I don't expect that they would invent much, considering they were enslaved. But how many other people do you think are denied patents or get screwed in some other way? Why don't you read this for a little perspective on the challenges on getting your inventions through https://www.wired.com/2013/04/gov-se...rs-on-patents/ This isn't a black issue. It's just an issue, PERIOD. Now, of course in the days of slavery, those slaves didn't have rights. But the President of the Confederacy enacted that law to protect their patent rights. Were you going to skip over that? No one is denying the wrong that was done with slavery. It's this idea that no other "race" or civilization has ever gone through anything, and the world owes black people everything, that is a total fantasy. This country has come a long way from those days, and where you can find instances of black oppression, you can find just as many for whites. People are struggling all over the world with various things. But what do you care? Only black history matters to you, right? saintfan likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.