No. You see Black when it's convenient. You see American when it's convenient. The artforms were birthed slavery and Jim Crow by Black people. It originates with them. There is an influence of Afrika passed down from generation to generation, but that's neither here nor there. Afrikans...in America...aka Afrikan-Americans are the creators of these genres.

As for Charlie Pride, country music was influenced by the blues. Again...the art form birthed on plantations by slaves.

Country music, at its essence, is an Irish construct. I'm so sorry you have been misinformed.

Can you elaborate on when these things happen?

When have you observed me to see black or American when it's convenient?

I fail to see the influence of Africa. I do see the influence of black people - Americans then and now.

Blues music is American. Where is the african influence? In what aspect of the music? The chord structure. The lyrics? Or perhaps suffering isn't uniquely 'African' after all?

Jazz music is a construct of many forms of music, some black, some not, but you disagree. To you it's all rooted in black people which defies the truth.

Regardless, the chord structure isn't black. They didn't invent it. That'd be European, but I fear this very important point about the 'roots' of these genres will be completely lost on you, right?

Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation. Jazz has roots in West African cultural and musical expression, and in African-American music traditions including blues and ragtime, as well as European military band music. Although the foundation of jazz is deeply rooted within the black experience of the United States, different cultures have contributed their own experience and styles to the art form as well. Intellectuals around the world have hailed jazz as "one of America's original art forms".

Ferris, Jean (1993) America's Musical Landscape. Brown and Benchmark. ISBN 0697125165. pp. 228, 233

Starr, Larry, and Christopher Waterman. "Popular Jazz and Swing: America's Original Art Form." IIP Digital. Oxford University Press, 26 July 2008.

Is that enough acknowledgement of this "vast", European influence?

Jazz has roots in West African cultural and musical expression, and in African-American music traditions including blues and ragtime, as well as European military band music.

Wait wait. This writer appears to agree with me, pretty much:



I don't disagree with a single word. Thank you for posting. It isn't uniquely black as you suggested many posts ago. White people didn't steal it as you so desperately want to believe. Dude I'm so sorry for you but it just isn't true.

Three chords and the truth. That was a white creation. Did black people steal it?

Of course not. That's absurd. You get it yet?

See, the key of "G" is, well, G, C, then D. The seventh which leads from the 1 to the 3, the 'blue' note...White people invented that Sir.

But it is completely preposterous to suggest that black people singing the blues stole white culture. I'm sorry if you can't get wrapped around my point. I truly do appreciate your passion for music. We share that. It is neither black nor white. It's human. I wish you could see that.

The author states jazz is deeply rooted in the Black experience. And you can't invent a key. A key exists whether you're capable of producing it or not. There's no proof that Europeans were the first to string those cords together. Did it have influence on Blacks? Sure, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the art form was born out of the Black experience as the author said.

You think the western musical structure came from Africa?

Were they playing guitars over there in the bush? The guitar is 4000 years old. How far back must we go before you understand? Do you even want to understand?

That 4000 year old guitar is likely Afrikan in origin. Egyptian to be specific.

That 4000 year old guitar is likely Afrikan in origin. Egyptian to be specific.

The author states jazz is deeply rooted in the Black experience. Not to mention, you can't invent a key. A key exists whether you're capable of producing it or not. There's this habit of believing you invented and discovered things that other people already knew about. There's no proof that Europeans were the first to string those cords together. Did it have influence on Blacks? Sure, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the art form was born out of the Black experience as the author said. Those Europeans who "invented" the key didn't in turn start making blues or jazz.

Oldest record of music from 1400 BC. Kinda cool but way way before slaves. Stringed noted.

https://youtu.be/DBhB9gRnIHE