The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer

rezburna · 09-25-2017, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Country music, at its essence, is an Irish construct. I'm so sorry you have been misinformed.

Can you elaborate on when these things happen?

When have you observed me to see black or American when it's convenient?

I fail to see the influence of Africa. I do see the influence of black people - Americans then and now.

Blues music is American. Where is the african influence? In what aspect of the music? The chord structure. The lyrics? Or perhaps suffering isn't uniquely 'African' after all?

Jazz music is a construct of many forms of music, some black, some not, but you disagree. To you it's all rooted in black people which defies the truth.

Regardless, the chord structure isn't black. They didn't invent it. That'd be European, but I fear this very important point about the 'roots' of these genres will be completely lost on you, right?

Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation. Jazz has roots in West African cultural and musical expression, and in African-American music traditions including blues and ragtime, as well as European military band music. Although the foundation of jazz is deeply rooted within the black experience of the United States, different cultures have contributed their own experience and styles to the art form as well. Intellectuals around the world have hailed jazz as "one of America's original art forms".

Ferris, Jean (1993) America's Musical Landscape. Brown and Benchmark. ISBN 0697125165. pp. 228, 233

Starr, Larry, and Christopher Waterman. "Popular Jazz and Swing: America's Original Art Form." IIP Digital. Oxford University Press, 26 July 2008.

Is that enough acknowledgement of this "vast", European influence? Make note of "West Afrikan" as well.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: The NFL Is a Product I Refuse to Purchase Any Longer Originally Posted by saintfan Country music, at its essence, is an Irish construct. I'm so sorry you have been misinformed. Can you elaborate on when these things happen? When have you observed me to see black or American when it's convenient? I fail to see the influence of Africa. I do see the influence of black people - Americans then and now. Blues music is American. Where is the african influence? In what aspect of the music? The chord structure. The lyrics? Or perhaps suffering isn't uniquely 'African' after all? Jazz music is a construct of many forms of music, some black, some not, but you disagree. To you it's all rooted in black people which defies the truth. Regardless, the chord structure isn't black. They didn't invent it. That'd be European, but I fear this very important point about the 'roots' of these genres will be completely lost on you, right? Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation. Jazz has roots in West African cultural and musical expression, and in African-American music traditions including blues and ragtime, as well as European military band music. Although the foundation of jazz is deeply rooted within the black experience of the United States, different cultures have contributed their own experience and styles to the art form as well. Intellectuals around the world have hailed jazz as "one of America's original art forms". Ferris, Jean (1993) America's Musical Landscape. Brown and Benchmark. ISBN 0697125165. pp. 228, 233 Starr, Larry, and Christopher Waterman. "Popular Jazz and Swing: America's Original Art Form." IIP Digital. Oxford University Press, 26 July 2008. Is that enough acknowledgement of this "vast", European influence? Make note of "West Afrikan" as well.
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