NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

saintfan · 08-13-2018, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I was just so unfortunate to never hear the thoughts and opinions of White people in 28 years of life. Or maybe I heard it and just didn’t comprehend it. Being in gifted classes I was the only Black kid most of the time but my comprehension level just wasn’t high enough to understand they’re superior points of view. This is my first time EVER debating a predominantly White audience whose views are diametrically opposed to mine. Uncharted territory. I don’t know what to do. That predominantly, White/Conservative football team I played for never sounded like you guys.

Man I don't know what happened to you in your younger years, but on behalf of all white people I am sorry. We jacked you up something fierce huh?

And now you want some land to make you feel better. I'm so sorry that isn't going to happen.

I'm guessing that, since this is your first time that you don't mind it when people whom you feel don't have a clue about how you feel call you a racist?

Welcome to the club.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Man I don't know what happened to you in your younger years, but on behalf of all white people I am sorry. We jacked you up something fierce huh?

And now you want some land to make you feel better. I'm so sorry that isn't going to happen.

I'm guessing that, since this is your first time that you don't mind it when people whom you feel don't have a clue about how you feel call you a racist?

Welcome to the club.

Glad we found some common ground today. How merciful of you to apologize to me. I’m so gracious. That’s all I needed. I’ve changed now.

saintfan · 08-13-2018, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Glad we found some common ground today.

I'd like to think we did. You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist.

But then again, I'm white. Between you and I there can be no common ground, right?

Sad.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'd like to think we did. You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist.

But then again, I'm white. Between you and I there can be no common ground, right?

Sad.

You can go through all 10 pages of the thread and quote when I told you that...and then we can talk about how wrong I was when I said it.

Never said there was no common ground.

saintfan · 08-13-2018, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

You can go through all 10 pages of the thread and tell me when I said that to you and then we can talk about how wrong I was when I said it.

Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person?

No matter, it was my "You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist." statements that I was hoping you'd focus on. Maybe you overlooked them deliberately.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person?

All people have common ground. Doesn’t mean I should overlook everything else simply because we both love the Saints. Like I said, I been on here for 5 years watching y’all go in on topics like this. Don’t act like I didn’t try to meet y’all in the middle. The last time I talked I told you I was done. I wasn’t playing.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person?

No matter, it was my "You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist." statements that I was hoping you'd focus on. Maybe you overlooked them deliberately.

I see the point you want to make everytime you post it. Reading comprehension isn’t a problem for me like it is for the rest of my community. You find it profound? You think it was something new to me? You think I’ve never met you a million times over? That’s the point I was hoping YOU would latch on to. You say I’m nothing new to you, likewise.

saintfan · 08-13-2018, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I see the point you want to make everytime you post it. Reading comprehension isn’t a problem for me like it is for the rest of my community. You find it profound? You think it was something new to me? You think I’ve never met you a million times over? That’s the point I was hoping YOU would latch on to. You say I’m nothing new to you, likewise.

Comprehension? There's goes whitey assuming the black man can't comprehend.

Actually, no, it isn't comprehension I questioned. I think it's selective reading is what I think, or selective responding. It's a common tactic, particularly in a forum like this, and it has nothing to do with the color of one's skin.

I didn't find it profound. I found it ironic. Because in your mind your opinions of all white people are funded by history and therefore you can rightfully point that racism finger at all of us, even though you have no idea who we are or what shaped our opinions. And yet you're somehow offended with the volley is returned.

"We" don't know "you", but "you" know "us"? And this is accurate because you are black and your terrible experiences growing up in Mississippi preclude any other actual thing, even though other black people with similar or worse experiences don't feel as you? They're all just misguided uncle tom's who need to be "dealt with"?

Is that about right then?

08-13-2018, 05:38 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna I was just so unfortunate to never hear the thoughts and opinions of White people in 28 years of life. Or maybe I heard it and just didn’t comprehend it. Being in gifted classes I was the only Black kid most of the time but my comprehension level just wasn’t high enough to understand they’re superior points of view. This is my first time EVER debating a predominantly White audience whose views are diametrically opposed to mine. Uncharted territory. I don’t know what to do. That predominantly, White/Conservative football team I played for never sounded like you guys. Man I don't know what happened to you in your younger years, but on behalf of all white people I am sorry. We jacked you up something fierce huh? And now you want some land to make you feel better. I'm so sorry that isn't going to happen. I'm guessing that, since this is your first time that you don't mind it when people whom you feel don't have a clue about how you feel call you a racist? Welcome to the club.

08-13-2018, 05:40 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan Man I don't know what happened to you in your younger years, but on behalf of all white people I am sorry. We jacked you up something fierce huh? And now you want some land to make you feel better. I'm so sorry that isn't going to happen. I'm guessing that, since this is your first time that you don't mind it when people whom you feel don't have a clue about how you feel call you a racist? Welcome to the club. Glad we found some common ground today. How merciful of you to apologize to me. I’m so gracious. That’s all I needed. I’ve changed now.

08-13-2018, 05:42 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna Glad we found some common ground today. I'd like to think we did. You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist. But then again, I'm white. Between you and I there can be no common ground, right? Sad.

08-13-2018, 05:45 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan I'd like to think we did. You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist. But then again, I'm white. Between you and I there can be no common ground, right? Sad. You can go through all 10 pages of the thread and quote when I told you that...and then we can talk about how wrong I was when I said it. Never said there was no common ground.

08-13-2018, 05:50 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna You can go through all 10 pages of the thread and tell me when I said that to you and then we can talk about how wrong I was when I said it. Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person? No matter, it was my "You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist." statements that I was hoping you'd focus on. Maybe you overlooked them deliberately.

08-13-2018, 05:53 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person? All people have common ground. Doesn’t mean I should overlook everything else simply because we both love the Saints. Like I said, I been on here for 5 years watching y’all go in on topics like this. Don’t act like I didn’t try to meet y’all in the middle. The last time I talked I told you I was done. I wasn’t playing.

08-13-2018, 05:54 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,131	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan Oh you'd never actually say that anymore than you'd admit your views are overtly racist. Can a man who desires the destruction of the American political system specifically because white people built it actually have common ground with a white person? No matter, it was my "You don't think we have a clue when we call you a racist. We feel similarly when "y'all" call "us" racist." statements that I was hoping you'd focus on. Maybe you overlooked them deliberately. I see the point you want to make everytime you post it. Reading comprehension isn’t a problem for me like it is for the rest of my community. You find it profound? You think it was something new to me? You think I’ve never met you a million times over? That’s the point I was hoping YOU would latch on to. You say I’m nothing new to you, likewise.

08-13-2018, 06:10 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna I see the point you want to make everytime you post it. Reading comprehension isn’t a problem for me like it is for the rest of my community. You find it profound? You think it was something new to me? You think I’ve never met you a million times over? That’s the point I was hoping YOU would latch on to. You say I’m nothing new to you, likewise. Comprehension? There's goes whitey assuming the black man can't comprehend. Actually, no, it isn't comprehension I questioned. I think it's selective reading is what I think, or selective responding. It's a common tactic, particularly in a forum like this, and it has nothing to do with the color of one's skin. I didn't find it profound. I found it ironic. Because in your mind your opinions of all white people are funded by history and therefore you can rightfully point that racism finger at all of us, even though you have no idea who we are or what shaped our opinions. And yet you're somehow offended with the volley is returned. "We" don't know "you", but "you" know "us"? And this is accurate because you are black and your terrible experiences growing up in Mississippi preclude any other actual thing, even though other black people with similar or worse experiences don't feel as you? They're all just misguided uncle tom's who need to be "dealt with"? Is that about right then?
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