NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group

spkb25 · 06-18-2020, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Nothing will change. Go ahead and kneel. Viewership will fall off a cliff just like last time. Sponsorship will decline. Anything associated with the NFL will decline in value.

Please do it. Let's finally settle it once and for all. Want to trash black and white serving this country, trying to instill justice, fairness. Go right ahead. You will lose underestimating Pride in the flag. It ain't perfect, but it is America. Take it or leave it.

well that's just it. Go protest at your local legislative office e, police precinct (which the jags did and i thought was awesome) but using your on the field time to virtue signal is pathetic. Drew brees on the utterly pathetic apology tour and his moron of a wife. And qhy? Scared to death to be protested at his HOF induction and/or lose his after football anoouncer job. God, how pathetic. And it is pathetic because he is saying **** he doesn't actually believe to apoease others.

iceshack149 · 06-18-2020, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

well that's just it. Go protest at your local legislative office e, police precinct (which the jags did and i thought was awesome) but using your on the field time to virtue signal is pathetic. Drew brees on the utterly pathetic apology tour and his moron of a wife. And qhy? Scared to death to be protested at his HOF induction and/or lose his after football anoouncer job. God, how pathetic. And it is pathetic because he is saying **** he doesn't actually believe to apoease others.

I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions.

And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before.

--Side note--
I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore.

That sucks.

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2020, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions.

And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before.

--Side note--
I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore.

That sucks.

Yes. That sucks for you. Although, the blame doesn't belong on anyone else. It is solely your decision to let something like that affect your thoughts about a simple form of entertainment. Honestly the vast majority of NFL fans don't care at all. They just want to watch the games.

iceshack149 · 06-19-2020, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes. That sucks for you. Although, the blame doesn't belong on anyone else. It is solely your decision to let something like that affect your thoughts about a simple form of entertainment. Honestly the vast majority of NFL fans don't care at all. They just want to watch the games.

You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you.

You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats.

spkb25 · 06-19-2020, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you.

You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats.

Want to prove him wrong, look at just this board. How much football is being discussed vs the politics.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2020, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you.

You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats.

Originally Posted by spkb25

Want to prove him wrong, look at just this board. How much football is being discussed vs the politics.

MOST fans aren't chiming in because they just want football. They don't want to hear your (not you necessarily, but others like you, okay you) constant crap outside of the game.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2020, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you.

You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats.

Now to you ... the only thing that would affect my enjoyment of the game would be if it didn't take place. Anything political before, during or after will not affect that enjoyment whatsoever. I don't care! Most fans don't care. They are the silent majority that always exists in society. It's basic sociology 101. Those that are out complaining about this or that are a tiny minority that believe others all feel their way. They ask their friends who are the most likely to feel the same way, or at least let on as they do.

I too talk to fans and a few feel as you, but the vast majority just want to have football and beyond that do not let the political ramifications affect that desire.

iceshack149 · 06-20-2020, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Now to you ... the only thing that would affect my enjoyment of the game would be if it didn't take place. Anything political before, during or after will not affect that enjoyment whatsoever. I don't care! Most fans don't care. They are the silent majority that always exists in society. It's basic sociology 101. Those that are out complaining about this or that are a tiny minority that believe others all feel their way. They ask their friends who are the most likely to feel the same way, or at least let on as they do.

I too talk to fans and a few feel as you, but the vast majority just want to have football and beyond that do not let the political ramifications affect that desire.

Dunno. I have a feeling that you really don't want to believe that offending many of the NFL's fanbase by pandering will lead to bad ratings.

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2020, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Dunno. I have a feeling that you really don't want to believe that offending many of the NFL's fanbase by pandering will lead to bad ratings.

No. I know that offending a small number of the fan base will lead to nothing more than frustration by that small number.

You are FAR over estimating your segment of the general public's concern.

Nope. As much as it may disappoint you, interest in the NFL will not decline for any "pandering".

I'll be here this season when you realize that and what to get excited about our Super Bowl run.

19-0 Baby!

spkb25 · 06-18-2020, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions.

And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before.

--Side note--
I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore.

That sucks.

It does auck, I've been a fan since 1986. And the injection of politics is going to prove to be their undoing. The height of the NFL is gone and its not going to get better. Why do you think Roger is looking for new fans overseas?

What some people don't understand is to support players that make certain comments or statements is to hold your nose and pretend you don't smell the stink. You have to betray yourself and root for people who are wealthy (because of their talent and hardwork ) because of where they live. It is nauseating. If it doesn't bother someone they'll watch and never miss a beat. I can't stomach it. Drew has been my favorite player and I've admired him for his drive and who he was on and off the field. But now I can't even look at him.

06-18-2020, 12:47 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by Beastmode Nothing will change. Go ahead and kneel. Viewership will fall off a cliff just like last time. Sponsorship will decline. Anything associated with the NFL will decline in value. Please do it. Let's finally settle it once and for all. Want to trash black and white serving this country, trying to instill justice, fairness. Go right ahead. You will lose underestimating Pride in the flag. It ain't perfect, but it is America. Take it or leave it. well that's just it. Go protest at your local legislative office e, police precinct (which the jags did and i thought was awesome) but using your on the field time to virtue signal is pathetic. Drew brees on the utterly pathetic apology tour and his moron of a wife. And qhy? Scared to death to be protested at his HOF induction and/or lose his after football anoouncer job. God, how pathetic. And it is pathetic because he is saying **** he doesn't actually believe to apoease others. Danno likes this.

06-18-2020, 02:37 PM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,477 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by spkb25 well that's just it. Go protest at your local legislative office e, police precinct (which the jags did and i thought was awesome) but using your on the field time to virtue signal is pathetic. Drew brees on the utterly pathetic apology tour and his moron of a wife. And qhy? Scared to death to be protested at his HOF induction and/or lose his after football anoouncer job. God, how pathetic. And it is pathetic because he is saying **** he doesn't actually believe to apoease others. I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions. And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before. --Side note-- I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore. That sucks. spkb25, Beastmode and RetiredFan like this.
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06-18-2020, 03:56 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,933	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions. And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before. --Side note-- I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore. That sucks. Yes. That sucks for you. Although, the blame doesn't belong on anyone else. It is solely your decision to let something like that affect your thoughts about a simple form of entertainment. Honestly the vast majority of NFL fans don't care at all. They just want to watch the games.

06-19-2020, 09:44 AM	#4
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,477 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes. That sucks for you. Although, the blame doesn't belong on anyone else. It is solely your decision to let something like that affect your thoughts about a simple form of entertainment. Honestly the vast majority of NFL fans don't care at all. They just want to watch the games. You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you. You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats.

06-19-2020, 01:12 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you. You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats. Want to prove him wrong, look at just this board. How much football is being discussed vs the politics.

06-19-2020, 02:19 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,933	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you. You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats. Originally Posted by spkb25 Want to prove him wrong, look at just this board. How much football is being discussed vs the politics. MOST fans aren't chiming in because they just want football. They don't want to hear your (not you necessarily, but others like you, okay you) constant crap outside of the game.

06-19-2020, 02:32 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,933	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 You're correct that simple form of entertainment does affect me and you'd be lying if you said that it doesn't affect you. You're incorrect in stating that the majority of fans don't care. Every NFL fan I talk to has something to say about the current state of the NFL. Most agree that the players are becoming insufferable brats. Now to you ... the only thing that would affect my enjoyment of the game would be if it didn't take place. Anything political before, during or after will not affect that enjoyment whatsoever. I don't care! Most fans don't care. They are the silent majority that always exists in society. It's basic sociology 101. Those that are out complaining about this or that are a tiny minority that believe others all feel their way. They ask their friends who are the most likely to feel the same way, or at least let on as they do. I too talk to fans and a few feel as you, but the vast majority just want to have football and beyond that do not let the political ramifications affect that desire.
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06-20-2020, 05:23 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,477 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Now to you ... the only thing that would affect my enjoyment of the game would be if it didn't take place. Anything political before, during or after will not affect that enjoyment whatsoever. I don't care! Most fans don't care. They are the silent majority that always exists in society. It's basic sociology 101. Those that are out complaining about this or that are a tiny minority that believe others all feel their way. They ask their friends who are the most likely to feel the same way, or at least let on as they do. I too talk to fans and a few feel as you, but the vast majority just want to have football and beyond that do not let the political ramifications affect that desire. Dunno. I have a feeling that you really don't want to believe that offending many of the NFL's fanbase by pandering will lead to bad ratings. Attached Thumbnails

06-20-2020, 06:13 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,933	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 Dunno. I have a feeling that you really don't want to believe that offending many of the NFL's fanbase by pandering will lead to bad ratings. No. I know that offending a small number of the fan base will lead to nothing more than frustration by that small number. You are FAR over estimating your segment of the general public's concern. Nope. As much as it may disappoint you, interest in the NFL will not decline for any "pandering". I'll be here this season when you realize that and what to get excited about our Super Bowl run. 19-0 Baby!

06-18-2020, 06:56 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Re: NFL players to kneel for anthem as a group Originally Posted by iceshack149 I agree with this. We are 4 years after the time when Brees could voice his opinion and there'd be no backlash. Now he has to lie to appease the "teammates" that called him out via social media. I hate that he felt the need to apologize for his opinions. And why are we hearing from his wife at all? Especially since we've never really heard from her before. --Side note-- I just got back from the store. A guy saw my Saints shirt and asked how I thought the Saints would do this year. I told him that I don't really care anymore. That sucks. It does auck, I've been a fan since 1986. And the injection of politics is going to prove to be their undoing. The height of the NFL is gone and its not going to get better. Why do you think Roger is looking for new fans overseas? What some people don't understand is to support players that make certain comments or statements is to hold your nose and pretend you don't smell the stink. You have to betray yourself and root for people who are wealthy (because of their talent and hardwork ) because of where they live. It is nauseating. If it doesn't bother someone they'll watch and never miss a beat. I can't stomach it. Drew has been my favorite player and I've admired him for his drive and who he was on and off the field. But now I can't even look at him. Danno likes this.
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