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this is a discussion within the NOLA Community Forum; Yes this is a fact... the Feds can not take military action in a US-state unless the Governer of that state signs off on the act. If Blanco signed the deal before the President asked a lot when have been ...

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Old 09-09-2005, 11:16 AM   #91
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Yes this is a fact... the Feds can not take military action in a US-state unless the Governer of that state signs off on the act. If Blanco signed the deal before the President asked a lot when have been in motion days... the feds where concern and even the President stepped in to call her and pleaded withher to sign off on it. It is a fact. This broke days ago as early as Wednesday.
"I need everything you have got," Ms. Blanco said she told Mr. Bush last Monday, after the storm hit.

In an interview, she acknowledged that she did not specify what sorts of soldiers. "Nobody told me that I had to request that," Ms. Blanco said. "I thought that I had requested everything they had. We were living in a war zone by then."

By Wednesday, she had asked for 40,000 soldiers.


WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 - As New Orleans descended into chaos last week and Louisiana's governor asked for 40,000 soldiers, President Bush's senior advisers debated whether the president should speed the arrival of active-duty troops by seizing control of the hurricane relief mission from the governor.

For reasons of practicality and politics, officials at the Justice Department and the Pentagon, and then at the White House, decided not to urge Mr. Bush to take command of the effort. Instead, the Washington officials decided to rely on the growing number of National Guard personnel flowing into Louisiana, who were under Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco's control.

The debate began after officials realized that Hurricane Katrina had exposed a critical flaw in the national disaster response plans created after the Sept. 11 attacks. According to the administration's senior domestic security officials, the plan failed to recognize that local police, fire and medical personnel might be incapacitated.

As criticism of the response to Hurricane Katrina has mounted, one of the most pointed questions has been why more troops were not available more quickly to restore order and offer aid. Interviews with officials in Washington and Louisiana show that as the situation grew worse, they were wrangling with questions of federal/state authority, weighing the realities of military logistics and perhaps talking past each other in the crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/na...gewanted=print

According to the administration's senior domestic security officials, the plan failed to recognize that local police, fire and medical personnel might be incapacitated.
This smells alot like FEMA .
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:50 AM   #92
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See here this is what doesn't add up... there are recorded phone calls from the White House to the Governor about this and during the investigation this will come out even more. Its all going to come down to the timeline of all this. Monday the reports were... New Orleans dodged the big one. Everything seemed to stand still if you will assessing the damage... then Bam Tuesday Morning the levee breaks. That is when response was needed the most. The local and state levee repair team need to act and plans activated and they were not.

Of course the fix here from the political side is ok lets fix it but damn it there should have been a better plan and it activated no questions asked. US citizens... we pay there salaries and for this kind of thing. Fire everyone. Get someone in there to do the damn job.
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:21 PM   #93
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Announcement Follows Barrage of Criticism; New Chief Is Named
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 2:54 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being relieved of his command of the Bush administration's Hurricane Katrina onsite relief efforts, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced Friday.

He will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad W. Allen, who was overseeing New Orleans relief and rescue efforts, Chertoff said.

Earlier, Brown confirmed the switch. Asked if he was being made a scapegoat for a federal relief effort that has drawn widespread and sharp criticism, Brown told The Associated Press after a long pause: ''By the press, yes. By the president, No.''

''Michael Brown has done everything he possibly could to coordinate the federal response to this unprecedented challenge,'' Chertoff told reporters in Baton Rouge, La. Chertoff sidestepped a question on whether the move was the first step toward Brown's leaving FEMA.

But a source close to Brown, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FEMA director had been considering leaving after the hurricane season ended in November and that Friday's action virtually assures his departure.

Brown has been under fire because of the administration's slow response to the magnitude of the hurricane. On Thursday, questions were raised about whether he padded his resume to exaggerate his previous emergency management background.

Less than an hour before Brown's removal came to light, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Brown had not resigned and the president had not asked for his resignation.

Chertoff suggested the shift came as the Gulf Coast efforts were entering ''a new phase of the recovery operation.'' He said Brown would return to Washington to oversee the government's response to other potential disasters.

''I appreciate his work, as does everybody here,'' Chertoff said.

''I'm anxious to get back to D.C. to correct all the inaccuracies and lies that are being said,'' Brown said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Asked if the move was a demotion, Brown said: ''No. No. I'm still the director of FEMA.''

He said Chertoff made the decision to move him out of Louisiana. It was not his own decision, Brown said.


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yeah... sounds like he's a paper pusher now.
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yeah... sounds like he's a paper pusher now.
Hopefully , toilet paper pusher


In a letter to President Bush, Democratic Senate leaders said that the removal of Brown from Hurricane relief efforts was not enough.

"It is not enough to remove Mr. Brown from the disaster scene as Secretary Chertoff announced today. The individual in charge of FEMA must inspire confidence and be able to coordinate hundreds of federal, state and local resources. Mr. Brown simply doesn't have the ability or the experience to oversee a coordinated federal response of this magnitude," the letter said. It was signed by Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and Chuck Schumer of New York.

Critics of Brown point to an extensive list of FEMA's failures since the hurricane struck Aug. 29. Topping the list was what happened at the convention center in New Orleans. There, 25,000 people were essentially stranded for four days.


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Yeah right now on fox news some people doing a round table news thing... and they are calling the mayor and Governor incompetent. They brought up some points...
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:53 AM   #97
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It seems that the Republicans are starting to find out what it was like for Clinton and the democrats for eight years.
Bush has in no way can be compared to Clinton. Clinton was a lying POS(Piece Of Sh*t). We are having a probleme with terrorist right now because he did nothing. Liberals are so out of touch with the true spirit of America. Why did the south go from a diehard Democratic strong hold to a Republican???? Now New York and Califronia are total liberal states???? BLAME BUSH, BLAME BUSH.....BLAME YOUR D@MN SELF. I cant say this enough, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN MISTAKES! You will not be shot for it, I promise.
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All I have to say about this is very simple.

The founding father of our country, the very first President of the United States, George Washington, opposed political parties with a passion. He also opposed certain types of banking systems (the ones we run today) because they're corrupt. And, it was George Washington that believed leaving the rest of the world alone and worrying about our own country was the way to keep out of trouble.

When the 2nd President of the United States took over, the country started turning to crap. Yes, it happened that fast. In fact, Washington tuned in to politics after his departure and wrote countless articles about his disapproval with the United States' government after he stepped down.

The country we live in now-a-days is nowhere even close to what our founding fathers had drawn up. And yes, folks, this is a VERY BAD thing. We are the exact type of country that we once rebelled against.

God Bless President Washington and his genius. Every president that followed ran this country into the ground.

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Its not all the Presidents fault we also have a congress and senete... but your point is very well taken and I brought up earlier was the the State (England), and New Orleans (colonials)... England taxing New Orleans and not representing New Orleans as they should. Hey recall the Boston Tea Party... the water in New Orleans needs to represent the tea.
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We are having a probleme with terrorist right now because he did nothing.

Who was president during the Gulf War that went to Baghdad and left without completing the job. Just wondering when this trend of doing nothing first started.

Why did the south go from a diehard Democratic strong hold to a Republican????
That is the question of the century. If either MS or LA had voted democrat, Bush would not be president right now. Would we be better off right now? That is the question I truly cannot answer. I was not a fan of Kerry's either. I did not vote in the last election because I could not bring myself to vote for either person. I can't blame the Republicans for the candidate they ran, but the Democrats probably lost the election due to the person they chose as their representative.
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