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this is a discussion within the NOLA Community Forum; spkb25, Should the government have been surprised by the looting? I don't think so. I think the fact that they were indicated how unprepared to handle something like this they were. You prepare for this by moving before the fact. ...

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Old 09-02-2005, 09:06 AM   #21
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spkb25, Should the government have been surprised by the looting? I don't think so. I think the fact that they were indicated how unprepared to handle something like this they were.

You prepare for this by moving before the fact. Not reacting to the fact. The government now has ships with supplies moving towards La. Ships that were ordered to move AFTER landfall of the hurricane. Wouldn't it have been prudent to move them closer just in case? Isn't that logical considering it was saturday afternoon when the storm was a cat 5 pointed towards NO, but still 36 hours or more away?

You prepare by expecting looting and having enough troops in the city immediately following the hurricane to combat the lawless. As it was the only troops in NO were primarily stationed at the superdome and they were UNARMED.

You prepare by having supplies moved to the nearest possible safe location that can be air lifted in and dropped by helicopter right in front of the superdome and convention center so that your surplus of National Guardsmen (which should have been there - see above) can hand them out. Let it be so much that much of it just sits there because everyone has what they need.

My comments are not about politics. I don't blame Bush so much as I blame the people who were in charge of this sort of planning and who did not mobilize these types of efforts. See, unlike an earthquake or a tsunami, this WAS PREDICTABLE. We had days to foresee what could happen. It is common knowledge that NO is below sea level and that flooding would be a problem. The governement knew nearly two days beforehand that NO and Biloxi were likely spots for landfall. Unfortunately, they underestimated the damage. They underestimated their need for supplies and the difficulty of getting it to those who need them. Why? This isn't the first hurricane to strike the US.

Sure, the devastation is larger than ever before, but so was the hurricane. On saturday we were looking at it on the satelite and getting the information that this was the fourth biggest recorded that could hit the US. But, FEMA took a wait-and-see approach rather than mobilizing everything they had. People are suffering and dying because of that decision.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:47 AM   #22
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I don't care what color... there are whites and asians in there. Since when being of color makes you less an American. This are New Orleanians and the city government failed them. THese are Louisianaians and the state failed them. Now the Federal government is rushing to the aid... lets hope they don't fail anymore Americans.

You can use any excuse... yeah they made a huge mistake and stayed home instead of evacuating. Shame on them but now they are in need of help and all levels of our government seem to be failing to help Americans. THe very Mayor threw up his hands and left the city, the mayor totally clueless when it comes to New Orleans. Treats New Orleans as a bastard step child city and this is proof. So if anyone here is a racist grow up... help your fellow Americans. Name callers get a life.

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Old 09-02-2005, 11:38 AM   #23
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SPK, I feel sorry for you brother, if you can't sit back understand your statement is racist. I can careless if you are black or even married to a black woman, to sit back and degrate people who were unfortunate to have a way to evacuate is wrong. They're thousands of people in NO and you assume the majority of the blacks are sucking money from the goverment and will not work. Do you have any compassion or sorrow?
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:42 AM   #24
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P.S .... I hope you don't make statement like that to your wife family
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:50 AM   #25
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God bless you spk. I hope you never become poor and I seriouly hope you and your family great success cause I will hate for you to have go through what the people of NO are going through so your eyes will open
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What is the definition of a snob?
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:06 PM   #27
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Your views I hate but your actions is too commendable to believe. I don't know to dislike you are want to shake your hand. Keep on helping but shhh on your beliefs...
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"...but the fact that they are poor is their choice. not mine not yours but theirs" -are you serious??? I can't believe you can live with yourself in this country and make a statement like that. We are a capitalist society. Do you know what that means??? Not everyone can be rich... you have your rich, middle class and your poor its a part of our society. spkb25 you really are ignorant of Louisiana and society... take some economic courses and learn about your government.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:42 PM   #29
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Do you know what that means??? Not everyone can be rich... you have your rich, middle class and your poor its a part of our society.
And if every American reached the upper class scale , we would bring in a lower class labor scale to work .

The Chineese on the railroad .
The Mexicans in the field .

So that this debate could go on and on .........
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:59 PM   #30
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This is the End- The Doors

It is quite amazing for me to read all of these posts and see the generalizations that are being thrown around. Everyone is blaming someone. The government, the people of the city, the mayor.
The only thing that gives me solace in times like these is that in a couple of thousand of years from now once a comet has crashed into the earth and ended this amusing little experiment called humanity there will be no sign that we ever existed.
Of all the creations of nature only humans destroy the planet and kill each other in anger and hate the way we do.
I hope all of you read this and understand that the planet can only be pushed by humans so far before it starts fighting back.

Oh, and by the way, Go Saints! Beat the crap out of the Panthers!
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