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this is a discussion within the NOLA Community Forum; Point well made and taken, Halo. It's just frustrating to watch sone rescue efforts held up because of the unlawfulness. I also agree that wherever this occurred there would have been looting...that's what has happened in Florida many times. That ...

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Old 09-01-2005, 08:49 PM   #11
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Point well made and taken, Halo. It's just frustrating to watch sone rescue efforts held up because of the unlawfulness.

I also agree that wherever this occurred there would have been looting...that's what has happened in Florida many times. That is why I am disappointed in the number of troops in the city. The looting is something predictable that should have been anticipated, but it seemed ignored until the reality of it.

For that matter, the government could drop supplies in with little problem and help those who need them. Again, it's just frustrating to watch people suffer while others are doing well enough to steal televisions and shoes.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:02 PM   #12
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Halo,

I fully understand and respect your role here. Second, this converstation should be move to another forum.

I will leave it at that.

Best regards..........
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:09 PM   #13
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For that matter, the government could drop supplies in with little problem and help those who need them. Again, it's just frustrating to watch people suffer while others are doing well enough to steal televisions and shoes.
Did I miss something ???

Did they move New Orleans recently ???

New Orleans no longer a port city ?

No Princess cruise ships in the area ?? No Air Craft carriers stationed close ??? Simply put , if you can make it to the Superdome , you can make it to a ship deck .

Federal
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Does not need our help in coming up with excuses , they will make their own .

Another link people near New Orleans or with New Orleans near to their heart should have http://www.cnn.com/feedback/ , nothing motivates a politician faster then the thought of losing his job .

Maybe a little outrage over comments like :

WASHINGTON (AP) -- It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level, House Speaker Dennis Hastert said of federal assistance for hurricane-devastated New Orleans.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/....ap/index.html

Will make politicians think twice about making these comments and federal agencies will not be so unprepared .

Express you anger over the system failure , so the next time there is a disaster the life they save faster may be your own ......

A comment from the UK on a Katrina Board :

I am compelled to write to you regarding Hurricane Katrina and what I am seeing on CNN. I just can not believe how inefficient and cruel the human race can be by leaving these poor people without food, and especially without water. Surely they must be able to airlift water by helicopter into affected areas such as the [Superdome] and the convention center? On the way the helicopter could pick up survivors in the water. Surely this can not be too simplistic. Secondly they knew the storm was coming, so why did they not have the naval hospital ships and helicopters standing by just a day's sail away, instead of seven days away which I have heard. The tsunami was unexpected and sudden, but this disaster was predicted. Someone should get their act together. It is very frustrating not being able to do anything except watch in horror.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:23 AM   #14
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now now... I believe one of the rules is not name calling.

There is some sense and honesty the Sen. comments... I mean come on what the hell build a city below sea level and "prepare" for a event such as this but when its said and done there was no preparedness. I ask what is wrong with moving the city to higher ground... rebuild New Orleans but in a different place. I have a name for the new city, New New Orleans. I mean you would think with the cruise ships and knowing this storm was coming and as part of the "prepardness" The USNS Comfort should have been deployed just in case. If they were not needed at least use it as a drill/practice. I know the ones left in NO this evevning will surelly be sent out of the state and away from the Governor and Mayor. THey should and need to be held responsible. No better example how she handled the negociations of the Saints lease. 'sure you want the saints in your town you pay for it and not the rest of the state'. She treated New Orelans as a bastard city and this is a great example how she failed New Orleans yet again. The Federal government is going to have to take over this entire mess.

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It seems like spk & DJ are looking at people on the news and assume they know their situation. How do you know who are lazy and not working and drop out of school and draining money from the goerment? The poor people in NO are mostly people that work minimum wage jobs. Your ignorant statment only suggest to me that you look at Race 1st & draw your conclusion. The people who decided to stay have their reason and it is just foolish to sit back and find ways to to degrate the unfortunate. Yeah, I said it.... YOU'RE STATEMENT IS RACIST.
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:07 AM   #17
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your an absolute idiot 08.
You do not leave blood in the mud .

Work your issues out later , these are Orleanians in need of help .

Humanbeings die as we wait .

You have your opinion , I have mine .
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Ruffled some feathers last time I was here, but I hope that's not what's important right now ...

I evacuated N.O. early Friday, before anyone even dreamed of things getting this bad. Like most everyone else in the area, I've lost everything I owned down there. Made it back to Birmingham with my skin ... guess that's the most important part.

I'm not here to fight. I just want to wish the best to all who've been affected by this tragedy. My deepest sympathies, and the sympathies of the nation, lie with the residents of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. I work for the phone company, and will likely be returning soon to begin recovery efforts for the city's network. I'd be lying to say I'm not apprehensive regarding the dangers, but we'll do what we can ... as soon as we can.

God be with all of you and your loved ones.
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can someone from the LA area check this out for me?
http://www.shareyourhome.org/index.html

I've signed up, but no real important information was asked for (ie. money/credit cards). Just checking for authenticity. Let me know, thanks.
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NEW ORLEANS - A day before President Bush headed to the hurricane-ravaged South, Mayor Ray Nagin lashed out at federal officials, telling a local radio station "they don't have a clue what's going on down here."

Federal officials expressed sympathy but quickly defended themselves, saying they, too, were overwhelmed by the catastrophe that hit the Gulf Coast region on Monday.

Nagin's interview Thursday night on WWL radio came as President Bush planned to visit Gulf Coast communities battered by Hurricane Katrina, a visit aimed at alleviating criticism that he engineered a too-little, too-late response.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_a...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Straight from the horse's mouth. Our government was overwhelmed by this hurricane. Remember, they had days as well to prepare all along knowing that, if NO took anything near a direct hit from a category 4 or 5 storm, the city would be devastated. Then they go and say...

Brown (FEMA Director) appeared the morning after the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin, charged that administration officials "don't have a clue" about what's going on in the devastated city that long has been among the nation's premier tourist attractions.

"People are getting the help they need," Brown asserted on NBC's "Today" show. "This is an ongoing disaster. This disaster didn't just end when Katrina left."

But Brown also acknowledged that little in the government's preparedness plan took into account the likelihood of lawlessness in such dire straits.

"Before the hurricane struck I came down here personally and rode the storm out in Baton Rouge," he said. "We had all of our rescue teams, the medical teams, pre-deployed, ready to go. ... The lawlessness, the crime that is occurring, did surprise us."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/...l_response_hk1

Oh, really? You didn't anticipate lawlessness? I did. I've watched Florida suffer through similar types of behavior after hurricanes in the past. I can't remember for sure, but I seem to recall that Florida at one point enacted a law designed to be much tougher on people who loot following disasters such as this.

And the man in charge was surprised. Unbelievable.
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