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this is a discussion within the NOLA Community Forum; Those officials from the Mayor up were elected by the people to represent and take care of the people and they failed. They should be held responsible......

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Old 09-03-2005, 08:46 AM   #41
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Those officials from the Mayor up were elected by the people to represent and take care of the people and they failed. They should be held responsible...
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:37 AM   #42
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There is no question that people misjudged or made a grave mistake at staying behind for whatever reason... not all these people were poor, some owned homes some owned business now they are left with NOTHING. I take some assume to just leave them on the side of the Interstate or leave them at the dome to all die.

The ones told to get to the dome or Civic Center once there were there the mayor didn't get help in there or security for them not the govenor but I guess the ones who listen and obeyed we should let them die to huh...
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:48 AM   #43
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I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere.

Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there.

New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state.

I just don't see their logic in this.

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Old 09-03-2005, 11:05 AM   #44
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hey man look it up for you not for me sp. I already know. Oh and whitewashed doesn't mean speaking well, writing well ormaking money. It means that a person trys to emerse himself in a cultural vacuum to seperate themselves from their own race in an attempt to assimilate the white race. But that's a little deep so forget it. I apologize for using the term to describe your wife because I really don't know her. For that matter I really don't know you and you might be one of those fun people who just like to throw out ideas and debate. For all I know you and your wife might be blacker than me. lol just clowning around feels good to have a little fun with all this tradgedy going on. Bottom line it rains on the juast and the unjust. Regardless of race. Money helps but doesn't heal. And if we are going to have a New Orleans in the future we all got to pull together and make it happen.
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:47 AM   #45
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We are the government.
Each and every one of us.
To me that means we all have control of the Federal Gov.
To me that means I can demand MY government to help.
And when I feel they didn't respond in a "suitable manner"
I can choose to "call them out" on it.
Sorry, I didn't know Everyone has access to television and internet where you live...
If you can tell me every single soul in the New Orleans area was warned to evacuate then i will say i am wrong.


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Don't quote a Canadian in your argument against Federal Government.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:04 PM   #46
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I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere.

Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there.

New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state.

I just don't see their logic in this.
They want to raise the land level .

The old San Francisco scenario - Rumor has it , that certain areas were raised and rebuilt on .

Take a Parish with 99% devastation , flat pack the buildings and debris add a layer or 2 of crusher base and top it off with some regular soil . 20 feet higher in little or no time .
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:31 PM   #47
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How about build a little city again, but spend the majority of the money on the former citizens of New Orleans. Give them money to rebuild and move on. Even if they do rebuild the city, its going to take an extremely long time. These people need somewhere to stay in the meantime and, in fact, are probably just as well off living in a different location.

Thats my opinion anyways. Give the money to the people so they can move on. Besides, no matter how hard they try, they'll never beable to rebuild "N'AWLINS."
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:06 PM   #48
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Many of us, politicians included, knew when New Orleans took a hit it was gonna be bad.

1. I don't have a big beef with Louisiana and local governments and the perceived lack of preperation. I think back on the last twenty or so years of the state's economy. Poor. If, ten years ago, Lousiana officials chose to sink billions into physical improvements for hurricane protection, many would scream bloody murder. New Orleans and state money was thin. Yes, the city has unique flooding and hurricane concerns. Hell, when three or more folks spit at the same time in the city you gotta pump it out.

2. Until you know she's failed you in a bad way, take it easy on your Governor - she can't repair a levee.

3. Don't pound your mayor for headin' to Baton Rouge in the early days - he could probably do a better job where the phones worked.

4. Our federal government may be a different story. Hopefully we'll learn later why the response was seemingly lacking. Perhaps it takes specific planning to crank up the big machine and do it right. America has never been faced with anything like this. Yes, we expect 'em to be on top of everything and provide at the drop of a hat. Sometimes we're quick to judge. It'll be different next time. As much as I hate to say it - It's live and learn. It's a shame New Orleans is the guinea pig.

5. Given similiar challenges, you'd probably see the same looting in any other major US city.

6. I'd hate to think the lack of immediate response in New Orleans had anything to do with class or social standing.

7. It's really tough to protect in a planning ahead kinda way. Sometimes you know an intersection in your town needs a traffic light? It takes a crash or two to get it done.

8. I can sit here and say I'd never loot. I can also say never say never.

9. Something good will come out of this. Time and time again my trust in the Lord, and lack of it, at times, has proven so.

10. Some politician said he questions whether New Orleans should be rebuilt at all and whether it's worth it. I'd like to kick him square in the nut-sack (See #9).

11. When I see the New Orleans mayor speak on TV, I think he's just smoked a big bowl.

12. Warrick Dunn challenges all NFL players, except Saints, to contribute $5,000 to relief. Thanks Louisiana, for loaning him to Tallahassee for a few years. We love him.



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Old 09-03-2005, 09:19 PM   #49
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1. I think everyone should have a HUGe beef with the local and State government. They said there was a plan if the levee ever broke. The Army Corps of Engeneers said there was suppose to have been and they were called in and couldn't find anyone or anything equipment ect in place to fix this... Nor was the mayor or govenor staged anything in another part of the state to prepare for anything lot even treated it like a tropical storm.

2. The Govenor treat the Saints situation just like she treated this... didn't want to build a new stadium and wanted to tax New Orleans to pay to keep the Saints yet the State/BR benefited from the Saints being in the state. She Didn't have a plan in case NO got dumped on... she didn't have anything staged in BR did nothing... Mayor throws his hand sup in the air and yells SOS... and runs to BR

4. The Govenor has to ask for Federal help... I am sure we'll see what the problems were and I feel they could have done things like sent the USNS even if it wasn't needed it could have came in behind the hurricane if nothing else as part of a drill... military could have been there from day one if called apon.

5. Granted Looting... survival... I did see cops let 3 guys go once they say that they were carring food and fluids out and not TV's.

6. I think the lack or delay was due to piss poor planning from the local and state government.

7. They said there was a plan in case the levee broke... ya know the big one is coming and you do nothing. Where was the plan... they outright lied there was NO PLAN.

8. Hey... if I had a family i'd do what I had to to survive.

9. I hope they decided to rebuild in a different location... it'll happen again maybe not our lifetime but... it will.

10. maybe they should consider moving it though... its below sea levee hello.

11. I agree its his fault to... he's got some blame in this telling people where to go only to have them stranded with no food and water at the convention center.

12. Dunn HELL YES... Dunn for President!!! Also you got to give props to Turley as well.

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Old 09-04-2005, 10:22 PM   #50
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...I am hearing a lot of the people who are else where now that they have no plans on ever going back. I think this is going to happen to the Saints. LA and La. getting expansion teams maybe...
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