Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life

papz · 04-30-2014, 03:18 AM

I can say this... as much as Cuban is an arrogant entitled douchebag, he nailed it with his statement.

I will admit this... I am a minority. If you were to record me while I was driving, especially in traffic(I have terrible road rage), I'd make Sterling look like an ant. Some things just aren't made to be public. Unfortunately for him, it was. I don't condone what he said, but to practically force him to sell his team, it's way overboard. This reeks of Roger Goodell-ism in a new commissioner trying to make his mark and set an example. A life time ban is way too harsh imo.

*PSA announcement*

I grew up in a mixed income neighborhood... I don't discriminate. I have white, black, mexican, asian friends... good friends. While I've said some dumb **** in my life, I'm no racist... but I have been ignorant. Now I don't know if the same applies to Sterling, who is a known racial discriminator, I'm just saying it doesn't always go hand and hand. I think people who are passing judgement, especially some of the celebrities, should look at themselves in the mirror and then talk.

We've all said dumb ****. If you haven't, well... you must be a saint. If we were to wire up pro athletes 24/7, I'm not sure we'd have competitive sports anymore.

Crusader · 04-30-2014, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I can say this... as much as Cuban is an arrogant entitled douchebag, he nailed it with his statement.

I will admit this... I am a minority. If you were to record me while I was driving, especially in traffic(I have terrible road rage), I'd make Sterling look like an ant. Some things just aren't made to be public. Unfortunately for him, it was. I don't condone what he said, but to practically force him to sell his team, it's way overboard. This reeks of Roger Goodell-ism in a new commissioner trying to make his mark and set an example. A life time ban is way too harsh imo.

*PSA announcement*

I grew up in a mixed income neighborhood... I don't discriminate. I have white, black, mexican, asian friends... good friends. While I've said some dumb **** in my life, I'm no racist... but I have been ignorant. Now I don't know if the same applies to Sterling, who is a known racial discriminator, I'm just saying it doesn't always go hand and hand. I think people who are passing judgement, especially some of the celebrities, should look at themselves in the mirror and then talk.

We've all said dumb ****. If you haven't, well... you must be a saint. If we were to wire up pro athletes 24/7, I'm not sure we'd have competitive sports anymore.

I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid.

Halo · 04-30-2014, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid.

I have a big problem with the guy because he's a careless wealthy moron and gets what he gets. I don't pity him at all.

What I have a bigger problem with is that he was a bigot and talking about it in the privacy of his home and someone recorded it without his permission and transmitted it to the world....the problem I have is my own privacy and not his. I also do not work a multi-billion dollar corporation with hundreds of employees.

He's a sad little man and sad little men have the right to be wealthy idiot bigots in the privacy of their own home. BUT as others have said, he owns a business and it just wasn't meant to be. It can break wiretap laws in every direction, but in private business, the consequences are what they are.

QBREES9 · 04-30-2014, 02:13 PM

Good

exile · 04-30-2014, 02:30 PM

The ex-girlfriend doesn't seem very friendly. Well, you put yourself there. Even wearing a "Donald" (Sterling) t-shirt. Wow.

TheOak · 04-30-2014, 04:04 PM

TheOak · 04-30-2014, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think they should have allowed his players to become free agents immediately upon the end of the league year, and if he can assemble a team so be it. But whatevs, I don't really care what happens.

So your going to punish his players for what he said? Not all would be picked up.

Sterling purchased the Clippers in 1981 for 15m, the Clippers are presently worth an estimated 700m-1b..... He will be forced to sell and I've zero pity for any idiot that gets a $700m payday for speaking honestly.

TheOak · 04-30-2014, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid.

Your correct. You can't just outlaw stupid or protect it from itself with laws.

You can however discriminate against stupidity and maintain separation. That is usually covered by the CoBC. The NFL calls it protecting the shield.

exile · 04-30-2014, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

SHe will be forced to sell and I've zero pity for any idiot that gets a $700m payday for speaking honestly.

I don't think that the the NBA will be able to force him to sell. There will be a cartel of defense attorneys just waiting for that day.

TheOak · 04-30-2014, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by exile

I don't think that the the NBA will be able to force him to sell. There will be a cartel of defense attorneys just waiting for that day.

Au contrair. There is always a way to vote owners out.

The league can redistribute all of his players until he is no longer owner. That will sink him, he would rather sell it for 1bn than let it vanish.

No billionaire or multimillionaire would enter into a co-op business business venture with out the ability to get rid of bad eggs.

The NFL has to vote to allow a new owner and they can vote to eject a new owner.

04-30-2014, 03:18 AM	#11
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life I can say this... as much as Cuban is an arrogant entitled douchebag, he nailed it with his statement. I will admit this... I am a minority. If you were to record me while I was driving, especially in traffic(I have terrible road rage), I'd make Sterling look like an ant. Some things just aren't made to be public. Unfortunately for him, it was. I don't condone what he said, but to practically force him to sell his team, it's way overboard. This reeks of Roger Goodell-ism in a new commissioner trying to make his mark and set an example. A life time ban is way too harsh imo. PSA announcement I grew up in a mixed income neighborhood... I don't discriminate. I have white, black, mexican, asian friends... good friends. While I've said some dumb ** in my life, I'm no racist... but I have been ignorant. Now I don't know if the same applies to Sterling, who is a known racial discriminator, I'm just saying it doesn't always go hand and hand. I think people who are passing judgement, especially some of the celebrities, should look at themselves in the mirror and then talk. We've all said dumb **. If you haven't, well... you must be a saint. If we were to wire up pro athletes 24/7, I'm not sure we'd have competitive sports anymore. Danno, 73Saint and frydaddy like this.
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04-30-2014, 03:39 AM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by papz I can say this... as much as Cuban is an arrogant entitled douchebag, he nailed it with his statement. I will admit this... I am a minority. If you were to record me while I was driving, especially in traffic(I have terrible road rage), I'd make Sterling look like an ant. Some things just aren't made to be public. Unfortunately for him, it was. I don't condone what he said, but to practically force him to sell his team, it's way overboard. This reeks of Roger Goodell-ism in a new commissioner trying to make his mark and set an example. A life time ban is way too harsh imo. PSA announcement I grew up in a mixed income neighborhood... I don't discriminate. I have white, black, mexican, asian friends... good friends. While I've said some dumb ** in my life, I'm no racist... but I have been ignorant. Now I don't know if the same applies to Sterling, who is a known racial discriminator, I'm just saying it doesn't always go hand and hand. I think people who are passing judgement, especially some of the celebrities, should look at themselves in the mirror and then talk. We've all said dumb **. If you haven't, well... you must be a saint. If we were to wire up pro athletes 24/7, I'm not sure we'd have competitive sports anymore. I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid. savoyk likes this.

04-30-2014, 11:04 AM	#13
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,717 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by Crusader I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid. I have a big problem with the guy because he's a careless wealthy moron and gets what he gets. I don't pity him at all. What I have a bigger problem with is that he was a bigot and talking about it in the privacy of his home and someone recorded it without his permission and transmitted it to the world....the problem I have is my own privacy and not his. I also do not work a multi-billion dollar corporation with hundreds of employees. He's a sad little man and sad little men have the right to be wealthy idiot bigots in the privacy of their own home. BUT as others have said, he owns a business and it just wasn't meant to be. It can break wiretap laws in every direction, but in private business, the consequences are what they are. Crusader likes this.
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04-30-2014, 02:30 PM	#15
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life The ex-girlfriend doesn't seem very friendly. Well, you put yourself there. Even wearing a "Donald" (Sterling) t-shirt. Wow. Halo likes this.
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04-30-2014, 04:11 PM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by rezburna I think they should have allowed his players to become free agents immediately upon the end of the league year, and if he can assemble a team so be it. But whatevs, I don't really care what happens. So your going to punish his players for what he said? Not all would be picked up. Sterling purchased the Clippers in 1981 for 15m, the Clippers are presently worth an estimated 700m-1b..... He will be forced to sell and I've zero pity for any idiot that gets a $700m payday for speaking honestly. savoyk likes this.

04-30-2014, 04:15 PM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by Crusader I agree with you in large parts. The problem is that he is the employer of a lot of people, not only players, that are part of the group he made disparaging remarks about. The NBA is pretty much forced to be as harsh as possible about this. Its tough thou because you can't just outlaw stupid. Your correct. You can't just outlaw stupid or protect it from itself with laws. You can however discriminate against stupidity and maintain separation. That is usually covered by the CoBC. The NFL calls it protecting the shield. savoyk likes this.

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exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by TheOak SHe will be forced to sell and I've zero pity for any idiot that gets a $700m payday for speaking honestly. I don't think that the the NBA will be able to force him to sell. There will be a cartel of defense attorneys just waiting for that day.
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04-30-2014, 05:25 PM	#20
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Clippers Owner Banned 4 Life Originally Posted by exile I don't think that the the NBA will be able to force him to sell. There will be a cartel of defense attorneys just waiting for that day. Au contrair. There is always a way to vote owners out. The league can redistribute all of his players until he is no longer owner. That will sink him, he would rather sell it for 1bn than let it vanish. No billionaire or multimillionaire would enter into a co-op business business venture with out the ability to get rid of bad eggs. The NFL has to vote to allow a new owner and they can vote to eject a new owner. savoyk likes this.