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I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'd like the Saints to keep their draft stock and run with Winston at QB. They will restructure and hopefully make some trades but this team will lose some quality players in the coming months so the draft will be ...

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Old 01-20-2021, 02:20 PM   #1
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I'd like the Saints to keep their draft stock and run with Winston at QB. They will restructure and hopefully make some trades but this team will lose some quality players in the coming months so the draft will be more important than ever. I'm glad Ireland is here for that.
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Old 01-22-2021, 06:36 AM   #2
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Yea I concede, I misread what you wrote. He had a problem with the GM's decisions though too, especially after DeAndre Hopkins was traded. He was promised a role in the hiring on the GM and coaches, so the lies are not good form on the part of the Texans.
Don't, there is nothing to concede. The Texans organization can barely keep up with that hot mess they call a franchise, certainly we can not expect to be able to. The only reason I knew more about what is going on is because I live here and have to hear about the BS daily.

I have just never vested too much into any employee having issue with the decisions of management. No single organization owns that moniker.

This is just my personal spin on the situation. Deshaun Watson pays an agent a lot of money to ensure that agreements between Deshaun and the organization are not only reasonable but kept. Whom ever his agent is he should be terminated for not ensuring something that is important wasn't in the contract and for not advising his client against publicly airing his grievances.

I just looked up his agent and the third reason David Mulugheta needs to be terminated as Watson's agent is because he is trying to push him to the Jets. Another sh1ttastic hot mess of an organization.

Oh my lord, I just looked at Watsons contract, no one will touch that... $67M in dead money this year and $50M in dead money next year with $40M cap hits in 2022/2023 lol. He better shut up and deposit his check quietly for the next two years.

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Old 01-20-2021, 06:26 AM   #3
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It's a lot of money and cap room. I think I'd even rather trade up to #1 and take his Clemson successor Lawrence, as expensive as that would also be.

Let's see what Payton can do with Taysom's talent and a whole offseason to reimagine our offense. Maybe draft Ellinger as a backup and then we have two QB's whose styles are a bit similar and they can both truck defenders .
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:10 AM   #4
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It's a lot of money and cap room. I think I'd even rather trade up to #1 and take his Clemson successor Lawrence, as expensive as that would also be.

Let's see what Payton can do with Taysom's talent and a whole offseason to reimagine our offense. Maybe draft Ellinger as a backup and then we have two QB's whose styles are a bit similar and they can both truck defenders .
I know people hate to trade away the future but we are a QB away from not being as unpredictable as we are. I wouldn’t have too much heartache trading a couple of 1st rounders for our next QB then retain what we have.

Yes we had 3 serviceable to good QBs this season but every time you start a different QB the offense has to re-learn timings. Having Drew on the field didn’t cost us the Bucs game, having him off the field late in the season cost us the game.

The answer to the questions “what’s wrong with our offense”, “what happened to high powered”, why are we slow starting”... is simply ‘out of sync’ and that takes time. It took Brady 3/4 of a season to get his offense synchronized.

Is Brees a better QB than Hill, Winston, or Watson.. yes but it’s better to start the same lesser QB than shuffle through the season and into the playoffs.
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I know people hate to trade away the future but we are a QB away from not being as unpredictable as we are. I wouldn’t have too much heartache trading a couple of 1st rounders for our next QB then retain what we have.

Yes we had 3 serviceable to good QBs this season but every time you start a different QB the offense has to re-learn timings. Having Drew on the field didn’t cost us the Bucs game, having him off the field late in the season cost us the game.

The answer to the questions “what’s wrong with our offense”, “what happened to high powered”, why are we slow starting”... is simply ‘out of sync’ and that takes time. It took Brady 3/4 of a season to get his offense synchronized.

Is Brees a better QB than Hill, Winston, or Watson.. yes but it’s better to start the same lesser QB than shuffle through the season and into the playoffs.
Brees is not a better QB than Hill, Winston, or Watson right now. He WAS a better QB than they are right now, but he just can’t run the entire playbook anymore. Situational QB’s was a horrible idea, horrible one, and clearly a band-aid. If Brees were to return in 2021, I’d still rather see Taysom, Jameis or Deshaun (if he were here) get the starting nod over the future first ballot HOF’er.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:01 AM   #6
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Anyone seen Baldy's Breakdowns when Brees missed Kamara wide open multiple times, in favour of 5 yard passes to Cook and Sanders.
I love Brees, but he's done. It's time for him to hang them up and we go with a young QB to build around.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:02 AM   #7
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Anyone seen Baldy's Breakdowns when Brees missed Kamara wide open multiple times, in favour of 5 yard passes to Cook and Sanders.
I love Brees, but he's done. It's time for him to hang them up and we go with a young QB to build around.
Yup I hate to say it, but Brees is pretty much finished. He can't push the ball down the field at all. Hell, it's one thing to be able to throw the deep pass(which Brees definitely can't do), but he passes up 20-25 yard throws down the field in favor of drop offs. Kamara is the only individual we have that keeps defenses off guard and makes them have to adjust.
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Old 01-20-2021, 04:55 PM   #8
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Anyone seen Baldy's Breakdowns when Brees missed Kamara wide open multiple times, in favour of 5 yard passes to Cook and Sanders.
I love Brees, but he's done. It's time for him to hang them up and we go with a young QB to build around.

Yeah I noticed that a time or two and I was shocked that he didn't check down to Kamara when the Bucs were shifted away from him.
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The Saints have until 2026 or 2027 to position themselves in such a way that they can pick Arch Manning - that planning has to start now.

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The Saints have until 2026 or 2027 to position themselves in such a way that they can pick Arch Manning - that planning has to start now.

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