I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson

blackangold · 01-20-2021, 02:21 PM

When looking at players that will be on the FA market or available via trade...

PLEASE do this first: ask yourself do the Saints have cap room?
The answer will always be no for 2021.

Taysom Hill will be the QB for 2021. Not because he is better than other options, but because he is under contract.

WE ARE $96M OVER THE CAP. We are so far over the cap without signing any FA to fill a full roster....

Hopefully I crushed the dreams of a few. We will be lucky to walk away with a 8-8 record. If Payton get us to 9-7 than ill be shocked (the cap is the problem, not Brees leaving).

iceshack149 · 01-20-2021, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

When looking at players that will be on the FA market or available via trade...

PLEASE do this first: ask yourself do the Saints have cap room?
The answer will always be no for 2021.

Taysom Hill will be the QB for 2021. Not because he is better than other options, but because he is under contract.

WE ARE $96M OVER THE CAP. We are so far over the cap without signing any FA to fill a full roster....

Hopefully I crushed the dreams of a few. We will be lucky to walk away with a 8-8 record. If Payton get us to 9-7 than ill be shocked (the cap is the problem, not Brees leaving).

Ross Jackson does a great job of addressing this on Monday's Whodat Confessional podcast. He basically stated that Loomis and Khai Hartley have multiple ways to trim the fat and doesn't think that the team will look that much different. (I have a hard time believing that but Ross is probably correct. He's a smart guy).

blackangold · 01-20-2021, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Ross Jackson does a great job of addressing this on Monday's Whodat Confessional podcast. He basically stated that Loomis and Khai Hartley have multiple ways to trim the fat and doesn't think that the team will look that much different. (I have a hard time believing that but Ross is probably correct. He's a smart guy).

Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/

Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion).

dizzle88 · 01-20-2021, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/

Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion).

Yeah starting to the feel the same, this obsession with a farewell tour, whilst a nice sentiment and would have been great, has pretty much ruined this franchise for the next few years.

3 picks in the draft.
Way over the cap.

lee909 · 01-20-2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/

Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion).

And this was why in other threads in mentioned Thomas and Armstead in trades. Both free up lots of money if traded after June 1st.

Personally i think it will take two years to properly clear all the dead money and have the extra space to start a proper rebuild

Should have a few extra draft picks with comp picks from players and staff in 2021/22. Its Ideal world you keep most of the core but its not ideal with the cap issues and with the finances looking like they will drop short term as is happening across all major sports.

I would be moving on from anyone who will be past their best in 2 years or injury prone. It would likley be a hard two years but plenty of teams are showing that with a bit of space and good drafts you can recover quicker now than ever before

But saying all that if the was a way or nabbing Watson now you do it. Far easier to replace any player on the roster than a franchise QB

saintsfan1976 · 01-20-2021, 06:21 PM

I'm down for Watson if they can make it happen

Rugby Saint II · 01-23-2021, 04:24 PM

Dak? Anyone?

hitta · 01-23-2021, 05:58 PM

Deshaun Watson wants to be in an offense like the one that Sean Payton runs. He has a no trade clause. If we can put up the resources, and get DW to want to come here, we can force Houston's hand. Deshaun Watson has all the control. If he wanted to come here, we could put something together. I would definitely trade away Thomas, Armstead, or whoever just to get DW.

SaintGnome · 01-23-2021, 06:20 PM

Houston would be idiots if they don't get a kings ransom for Deshawn, that plus our current CAP challenges means the cupboard would be bare around him. Which means we become the new 2020 Texans.

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01-20-2021, 02:21 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson When looking at players that will be on the FA market or available via trade... PLEASE do this first: ask yourself do the Saints have cap room? The answer will always be no for 2021. Taysom Hill will be the QB for 2021. Not because he is better than other options, but because he is under contract. WE ARE $96M OVER THE CAP. We are so far over the cap without signing any FA to fill a full roster.... Hopefully I crushed the dreams of a few. We will be lucky to walk away with a 8-8 record. If Payton get us to 9-7 than ill be shocked (the cap is the problem, not Brees leaving).
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01-20-2021, 02:40 PM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Originally Posted by blackangold When looking at players that will be on the FA market or available via trade... PLEASE do this first: ask yourself do the Saints have cap room? The answer will always be no for 2021. Taysom Hill will be the QB for 2021. Not because he is better than other options, but because he is under contract. WE ARE $96M OVER THE CAP. We are so far over the cap without signing any FA to fill a full roster.... Hopefully I crushed the dreams of a few. We will be lucky to walk away with a 8-8 record. If Payton get us to 9-7 than ill be shocked (the cap is the problem, not Brees leaving). Ross Jackson does a great job of addressing this on Monday's Whodat Confessional podcast. He basically stated that Loomis and Khai Hartley have multiple ways to trim the fat and doesn't think that the team will look that much different. (I have a hard time believing that but Ross is probably correct. He's a smart guy). gosaints1 likes this.

01-20-2021, 04:23 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Originally Posted by iceshack149 Ross Jackson does a great job of addressing this on Monday's Whodat Confessional podcast. He basically stated that Loomis and Khai Hartley have multiple ways to trim the fat and doesn't think that the team will look that much different. (I have a hard time believing that but Ross is probably correct. He's a smart guy). Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/ Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion). dizzle88 likes this.

01-20-2021, 04:33 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Originally Posted by blackangold Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/ Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion). Yeah starting to the feel the same, this obsession with a farewell tour, whilst a nice sentiment and would have been great, has pretty much ruined this franchise for the next few years. 3 picks in the draft. Way over the cap.

01-20-2021, 05:12 PM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Originally Posted by blackangold Ross may be a genius, but this team will look dramatically different next year. You can find any Tom, Dick or Sally saying what you want to hear all day, or you can look at it for yourself and see if you can shed $96m while remaining competitive. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/ Loomis and Payton blew their load building a team for Drew, they never should have signed him for this last contract (in my opinion). And this was why in other threads in mentioned Thomas and Armstead in trades. Both free up lots of money if traded after June 1st. Personally i think it will take two years to properly clear all the dead money and have the extra space to start a proper rebuild Should have a few extra draft picks with comp picks from players and staff in 2021/22. Its Ideal world you keep most of the core but its not ideal with the cap issues and with the finances looking like they will drop short term as is happening across all major sports. I would be moving on from anyone who will be past their best in 2 years or injury prone. It would likley be a hard two years but plenty of teams are showing that with a bit of space and good drafts you can recover quicker now than ever before But saying all that if the was a way or nabbing Watson now you do it. Far easier to replace any player on the roster than a franchise QB Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-20-2021, 06:21 PM	#6
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01-23-2021, 05:58 PM	#8
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,333	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Deshaun Watson wants to be in an offense like the one that Sean Payton runs. He has a no trade clause. If we can put up the resources, and get DW to want to come here, we can force Houston's hand. Deshaun Watson has all the control. If he wanted to come here, we could put something together. I would definitely trade away Thomas, Armstead, or whoever just to get DW.
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01-23-2021, 06:20 PM	#9
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: I would bet the farm on Deshaun Watson Houston would be idiots if they don't get a kings ransom for Deshawn, that plus our current CAP challenges means the cupboard would be bare around him. Which means we become the new 2020 Texans.