You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.

That wasn't even the crux of the entire discussion. I used 20 years simply because the numbers were easily at hand, still demonstrated the very low number of LSU players drafted per franchise and including the 15 years with Payton as head coach was right on the league average percentage of LSU players drafted. Was I wrong about using those parameters? Trivial as it is, I guess you can make that argument.

The true discussion was based upon your claiming that Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. Where is the proof of that? Simply your saying it is so doesn't make it true. I simply pointed out that fact and you began questioning my objectivity because I cannot come up with any reason to complain about Sean Payton. Does that make me wrong somehow?

You made a humiliating mistake trying to cite non-applicable data...

You. were. wrong.

Humiliating? LOL! Yeah, sure. Do you actually get humiliated over something as trivial as that? Come now, JP.



But you continue to deflect the whole point ... where is your proof that Payton has an aversion to drafting LSU players?

Payton has drafted two LSU players over his 15 years. Al Woods and Will Clapp. There was only one drafted in the previous five years. That's still close to the league average. Nothing that would approach an aversion.

Payton tenure started in 2006, this is 2021, that's fifteen years...

You. were. wrong.

No, the Saints' LSU draft picks, or lack there of, have almost no affect on the overall percentages. I will repost these numbers ...

1.) There are 778 colleges and universities in the United States with football programs according to footballfoundation.org as of June 28, 2018.

2.) Over the past twenty years those 778 sources have provided approximately 5,120 players to the NFL via the draft (20 years times 256 players).

3.) Over the past twenty years there have been 120 LSU players drafted. That comes out to an average of six LSU players drafted per year.

4.) In those last twenty years 2.3% of the players drafted league wide have been from LSU.

5.) Over the last twenty years the Saints have drafted approximately 140 players.

6.) Over the last twenty years the Saints have drafted three LSU players.

7.) Over the last twenty years 2.14% of the players the Saints have drafted have been from LSU. That's pretty much the league average. That means they are likely right about the median as far as drafting LSU players compared to the rest of the league. Half the teams have probably drafted more LSU players and half the teams have probably drafted less.

So, removing the Saints numbers from the overall league wide numbers we will recalculate.

Players drafted past twenty years minus Saints draftees: 5120 - 140 = 4980

LSU players drafted last twenty years minus Saints draftees: 120 - 3 = 117

Percentage of LSU players drafted overall with the Saints not included: 117/4980 = 2.349%

Your statement: "in fact, if you did the gymnastic scoring thing, and took the Saints out of it, that number would double..."

Oh, my! It looks like you were wrong!

Again, this is your post using data that is wrong as Sean Payton has only been HC since 2006, that's fifteen (15) years...

You. Are. Wrong.

Yawn.

Reality ---> You. Were. Wrong.