I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

QBREES9 · 02-09-2021, 11:58 AM

Just say NO to WINSTON!

K Major · 02-09-2021, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Sell high and buy cheap does not include QB. "whoever" is left over out there will be a back up at most.

Winston, Trubisky

, Brisette, Fig Newton, Dalton, Colt McKoy or Tyrod Taylor.

Slim pickens for a cap strapped team. I'd take the guy who has sat, watched and hopefully studied with a soon to be Hall of Fame QB & Coach Sean Payton over any of these other guys.

But hey, that's just me

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AsylumGuido · 02-09-2021, 12:12 PM

I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far.

Rugby Saint II · 02-09-2021, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far.

If only.....

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2021, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If only.....

If he knew for a fact he was going to retire he would have already announced that fact. That leads me to believe he's doing exactly what he said and seriously considering all options, just as he has done each of the past four off-seasons. He very well may end up deciding to retire, but with an extremely team friendly contract already in place for the 2021 season the opportunity to return remains very plausible.

shawnkytonk · 02-09-2021, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation.

That's just too much.

I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one.

If that's the case, he isn't getting traded.

SmashMouth · 02-09-2021, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

His Contract is friendly. He has a strong arm. He is pretty mobile. He will only be 30 in March. I think he would really thrive in our system. The more I'm sitting here thinking about it the more I'm really liking it.

There are rumors The Texans are wanting to trade Carr for Watson and some picks. Raiders fans don't think the Texans will ship Watson to an AFC team.

Only problem for us is we have nothing to really offer in picks.

Originally Posted by K Major

It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation.

That's just too much.

I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one.

That's a NEAUX, Dog.

Advice from a Wall Street Investor.. Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around.

i think I may be on board with KMajor's pick in the draft, Mac Jones. He may just fall to us. And a rookie contract is way more cap friendly.

RailBoss · 02-10-2021, 02:31 AM

I think Derek Carr has let the Black Hole seep into his brain.
Not sure SP with a team of Psychotherapists or even a Voodoo Priestess could snap him back.

TheOak · 02-10-2021, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Wonderlic does not put them on the same level intellectually, it puts them on the same level cognitively. Wonderlic in short is logic vs emotion and the reason that it is extremely difficult to correlate to intellect is because bad logic is still logic.

The two are related and intertwined but intellect requires objectivity, cognitive function doesn't. A Wonderlic has math, an IQ test has numbers and favors the ability to identify patterns.

Boston Saint · 02-10-2021, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Winston stole the test answers, Brees didn’t.

02-09-2021, 11:58 AM	#11
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02-09-2021, 12:02 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Sell high and buy cheap does not include QB. "whoever" is left over out there will be a back up at most. Winston, Trubisky , Brisette, Fig Newton, Dalton, Colt McKoy or Tyrod Taylor. Slim pickens for a cap strapped team. I'd take the guy who has sat, watched and hopefully studied with a soon to be Hall of Fame QB & Coach Sean Payton over any of these other guys. But hey, that's just me . leilung and SmashMouth like this.

02-09-2021, 12:12 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,470	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far. Rugby Saint II and WW_Who_Dat like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far. If only..... Thirty3 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,470	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If only..... If he knew for a fact he was going to retire he would have already announced that fact. That leads me to believe he's doing exactly what he said and seriously considering all options, just as he has done each of the past four off-seasons. He very well may end up deciding to retire, but with an extremely team friendly contract already in place for the 2021 season the opportunity to return remains very plausible. Rell&Gold likes this.

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02-09-2021, 04:41 PM	#16
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation. That's just too much. I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one. If that's the case, he isn't getting traded.

02-09-2021, 05:21 PM	#17
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,475 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by 4everSaint His Contract is friendly. He has a strong arm. He is pretty mobile. He will only be 30 in March. I think he would really thrive in our system. The more I'm sitting here thinking about it the more I'm really liking it. There are rumors The Texans are wanting to trade Carr for Watson and some picks. Raiders fans don't think the Texans will ship Watson to an AFC team. Only problem for us is we have nothing to really offer in picks. Originally Posted by K Major It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation. That's just too much. I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one. That's a NEAUX, Dog. Advice from a Wall Street Investor.. Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around. i think I may be on board with KMajor's pick in the draft, Mac Jones. He may just fall to us. And a rookie contract is way more cap friendly. K Major likes this.

02-10-2021, 02:31 AM	#18
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr I think Derek Carr has let the Black Hole seep into his brain. Not sure SP with a team of Psychotherapists or even a Voodoo Priestess could snap him back. st thomas likes this.

02-10-2021, 06:50 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by gosaints1 iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually. I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him. https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/ Wonderlic does not put them on the same level intellectually, it puts them on the same level cognitively. Wonderlic in short is logic vs emotion and the reason that it is extremely difficult to correlate to intellect is because bad logic is still logic. The two are related and intertwined but intellect requires objectivity, cognitive function doesn't. A Wonderlic has math, an IQ test has numbers and favors the ability to identify patterns.

02-10-2021, 06:53 AM	#20
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by gosaints1 iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually. I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him. https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/ Winston stole the test answers, Brees didn’t. Rugby Saint II and Thirty3 like this.