I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2023, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Well he said it.... "when Jameis broke his back", even repeated it. Injury sucks. But when we all learned of this, I think we all knew deep down it was over for Jameis.

It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.

leilung · 02-11-2023, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.

Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2023, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.

A little of both. I worked for 17 years with a health insurance company as a business and systems analyst and also with a medical records software department in software development. I have spent many an hour researching clinical data over the years. I've also been dealing with vertebrae issues (facet joint arthritis) personally for the past ten years. My wife is also a RNC and for the past fifteen years or so a medical malpractice claims adjustor. I hear all kinds of stuff from that arena.

I actually asked my spine and back specialist at one of my quarterly appointments specifically about Jameis' injury and he gave me a brief rundown and told me what to look for online.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2023, 01:18 PM

K Major · 02-11-2023, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.

Lol.

Some people like to mimic things others have said on Twitter or XM radio

and then post it here to sound as if they actually "know" what's best for the franchise and team.

Braggart, egotist type.

Saintfan nailed it.

Thirty3 · 02-11-2023, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2023, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same.

The Wonderlic isn't a written test. It is a multiple choice test designed to measure quick decision making. It consists of 50 problems to be solved inside of 12 minutes. That's pressure, don't you think?

Here's a 25 question practice test you can check out.

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2023, 10:09 AM

This right here.

rezburna · 02-12-2023, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.

Correct.

SmashMouth · 02-12-2023, 11:57 AM

We should see something this week after he's released IMHO. If Saints sign him, we draft a QB next year, other than a late 6th or 7th rounder. The class next year is arguably better . Which one would you draft from this list below?
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2024

02-11-2023, 11:23 AM	#191
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Well he said it.... "when Jameis broke his back", even repeated it. Injury sucks. But when we all learned of this, I think we all knew deep down it was over for Jameis. It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds. Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine). While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read. rezburna likes this.
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02-11-2023, 12:28 PM	#192
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,171	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds. Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine). While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read. Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know. Just asking. AsylumGuido likes this.

02-11-2023, 12:53 PM	#193
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by leilung Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know. Just asking. A little of both. I worked for 17 years with a health insurance company as a business and systems analyst and also with a medical records software department in software development. I have spent many an hour researching clinical data over the years. I've also been dealing with vertebrae issues (facet joint arthritis) personally for the past ten years. My wife is also a RNC and for the past fifteen years or so a medical malpractice claims adjustor. I hear all kinds of stuff from that arena. I actually asked my spine and back specialist at one of my quarterly appointments specifically about Jameis' injury and he gave me a brief rundown and told me what to look for online. Crusader and leilung like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,079 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by leilung Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know. Just asking. Lol. Some people like to mimic things others have said on Twitter or XM radio and then post it here to sound as if they actually "know" what's best for the franchise and team. Braggart, egotist type. Saintfan nailed it. iceshack149, jnormand, vpheughan and 2 others like this.

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02-11-2023, 02:17 PM	#196
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,253	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by gosaints1 iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually. I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him. https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/ A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same. jnormand and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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02-11-2023, 02:28 PM	#197
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Thirty3 A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same. The Wonderlic isn't a written test. It is a multiple choice test designed to measure quick decision making. It consists of 50 problems to be solved inside of 12 minutes. That's pressure, don't you think? Here's a 25 question practice test you can check out.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,683	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds. Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine). While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read. Correct.

02-12-2023, 11:57 AM	#200
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,190 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr We should see something this week after he's released IMHO. If Saints sign him, we draft a QB next year, other than a late 6th or 7th rounder. The class next year is arguably better . Which one would you draft from this list below? https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2024