I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2023, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

In principal yes … 30-35 million seems to be the number for a top 15 QB.

The pursuit for Watson was evidence that the front office was trying to cleanup the QB wasteland that Sean Payton left the team in after his departure. No, I was not a Watson fan but feel strongly that you cannot compete in the modern day NFL without above average QB play. Saints were not the only team that held their nose and step into the fray, they were all in the same living QB purgatory.

If we don’t land Carr Saints prospects for landing a QB thru the draft is a very long shot/high risk play at best considering where we fall in the draft. Carr can be a bridge QB for the next 4 years which give us time to draft QB’s with the potential to be our future starting QB.

Moving money forward on exiting contracts does not cost the team 1 penny more, it’s like interest free money going forward knowing your future cash flow will cover and exceed your operating cost.

I suspect we will start seeing significant roaster turn and churn over the next 3 years, younger and cheaper throughout the roster.

Spend it this year or over the next 2 years you basically end up spending the same amount regardless how it’s accounted for.

Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

Someone who understands cost accounting principles as it applies to the NFL cap. Thank you, WW!

SmashMouth · 02-19-2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

In principal yes … 30-35 million seems to be the number for a top 15 QB.

The pursuit for Watson was evidence that the front office was trying to cleanup the QB wasteland that Sean Payton left the team in after his departure. No, I was not a Watson fan but feel strongly that you cannot compete in the modern day NFL without above average QB play. Saints were not the only team that held their nose and step into the fray, they were all in the same living QB purgatory.

If we don’t land Carr Saints prospects for landing a QB thru the draft is a very long shot/high risk play at best considering where we fall in the draft. Carr can be a bridge QB for the next 4 years which give us time to draft QB’s with the potential to be our future starting QB.

Moving money forward on exiting contracts does not cost the team 1 penny more, it’s like interest free money going forward knowing your future cash flow will cover and exceed your operating cost.

I suspect we will start seeing significant roaster turn and churn over the next 3 years, younger and cheaper throughout the roster.

Spend it this year or over the next 2 years you basically end up spending the same amount regardless how it’s accounted for.

Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

Solid reasoning if you're in SB/playoff contention. Thereby lies the challenge and conundrum. Saints are nowhere close. So if you're going to suck anyway, spending future cap dollars ( deficit spending for those in Rio Linda) makes little sense. Go young and cut bait, develop talent, and clean up the cap.

K Major · 02-19-2023, 02:47 PM

Good take from coach Herm.

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papz · 02-20-2023, 07:59 AM

Common sense.

Sinner · 02-20-2023, 11:48 AM

YAWN...

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2023, 11:59 AM

K Major · 02-20-2023, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

YAWN...

Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him.

Wild.

SmashMouth · 02-20-2023, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him.

Wild.

Even more interesting some think he's wroth over $30 million a year...

What Would BB do... is likely a great question to ask in this instance.

I think we've already seen the answer, neaux?

rezburna · 02-20-2023, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him.

Wild.

Raiders roster been pretty trash the entire time just to be fair. Offensive line was consistently bad.

K Major · 02-20-2023, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Raiders roster been pretty trash the entire time just to be fair. Offensive line was consistently bad.

Not sure about the O line but what about Waller, DeVante' Adams, Renfroe & Josh Jacobs at the skilled spots?

IDK, I'm just not expecting the needle to move much with DCarr in New Orleans (assuming he signs). Hopefully, the Saints/Mickey draw the line on compensation.

02-19-2023, 05:01 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat In principal yes … 30-35 million seems to be the number for a top 15 QB. The pursuit for Watson was evidence that the front office was trying to cleanup the QB wasteland that Sean Payton left the team in after his departure. No, I was not a Watson fan but feel strongly that you cannot compete in the modern day NFL without above average QB play. Saints were not the only team that held their nose and step into the fray, they were all in the same living QB purgatory. If we don’t land Carr Saints prospects for landing a QB thru the draft is a very long shot/high risk play at best considering where we fall in the draft. Carr can be a bridge QB for the next 4 years which give us time to draft QB’s with the potential to be our future starting QB. Moving money forward on exiting contracts does not cost the team 1 penny more, it’s like interest free money going forward knowing your future cash flow will cover and exceed your operating cost. I suspect we will start seeing significant roaster turn and churn over the next 3 years, younger and cheaper throughout the roster. Spend it this year or over the next 2 years you basically end up spending the same amount regardless how it’s accounted for. Improvise, Adapt and Overcome. Someone who understands cost accounting principles as it applies to the NFL cap. Thank you, WW!

02-19-2023, 05:23 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,793 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat In principal yes … 30-35 million seems to be the number for a top 15 QB. The pursuit for Watson was evidence that the front office was trying to cleanup the QB wasteland that Sean Payton left the team in after his departure. No, I was not a Watson fan but feel strongly that you cannot compete in the modern day NFL without above average QB play. Saints were not the only team that held their nose and step into the fray, they were all in the same living QB purgatory. If we don’t land Carr Saints prospects for landing a QB thru the draft is a very long shot/high risk play at best considering where we fall in the draft. Carr can be a bridge QB for the next 4 years which give us time to draft QB’s with the potential to be our future starting QB. Moving money forward on exiting contracts does not cost the team 1 penny more, it’s like interest free money going forward knowing your future cash flow will cover and exceed your operating cost. I suspect we will start seeing significant roaster turn and churn over the next 3 years, younger and cheaper throughout the roster. Spend it this year or over the next 2 years you basically end up spending the same amount regardless how it’s accounted for. Improvise, Adapt and Overcome. Solid reasoning if you're in SB/playoff contention. Thereby lies the challenge and conundrum. Saints are nowhere close. So if you're going to suck anyway, spending future cap dollars ( deficit spending for those in Rio Linda) makes little sense. Go young and cut bait, develop talent, and clean up the cap.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Sinner YAWN... Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him. Wild.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,793 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him. Wild. Even more interesting some think he's wroth over $30 million a year... What Would BB do... is likely a great question to ask in this instance. I think we've already seen the answer, neaux?

02-20-2023, 01:49 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major Interesting how DCarr hasn’t really won (0-1 post season) much in 9 seasons yet there is a “market” for him. Wild. Raiders roster been pretty trash the entire time just to be fair. Offensive line was consistently bad.

02-20-2023, 02:01 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by rezburna Raiders roster been pretty trash the entire time just to be fair. Offensive line was consistently bad. Not sure about the O line but what about Waller, DeVante' Adams, Renfroe & Josh Jacobs at the skilled spots? IDK, I'm just not expecting the needle to move much with DCarr in New Orleans (assuming he signs). Hopefully, the Saints/Mickey draw the line on compensation.