ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL...

Rugby Saint II · 02-13-2021, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Agreed, Monday Morning QB’ing on whom “we could have got” is a recipe for disaster. But, I do believe it is fair to look at a player’s portfolio or body of work as a standalone evaluation. For example, in a cost benefit analysis, was the Davenport move a success, based on his body of work comparative to the cost it took to get him? I’d argue no, it wasn’t a successful move. I do agree however that going back and comparing player to player from previous draft’s is a nonsensical argument.

We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles.

We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts.

gosaints1 · 02-14-2021, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles.

We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts.

Fully understand, and agree. I also liked the move to go get Davenport, aka the guy we really liked. I can separate the reality of the situation now from the unknowns at the time the draft processes were in action. I won’t beat the coaches up over this one, imho, it was simply an aggressive move to get a guy that had/has tremendous upside..., but just hasn’t worked out well here, so far.

jeanpierre · 02-14-2021, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles.

We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts.

And yet the 2009 team had lesser talent and won the whole thing...

Quality over quantity, totally agree. But wouldn't it be better to have just one or two elite players and have a number of players at all the positions, than have holes at the end of the season?

Name the stacked rosters of the Patriots Championship teams; most won't get past Brady and Gronk; but they were loaded with role players...

You gotta have more darts for the draft dart board and you have to have salary cap flexibility, otherwise you can't adjust to get better or, if you've made it, change it up to keep the competition off-balance...

02-13-2021, 02:40 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL... Originally Posted by gosaints1 Agreed, Monday Morning QB’ing on whom “we could have got” is a recipe for disaster. But, I do believe it is fair to look at a player’s portfolio or body of work as a standalone evaluation. For example, in a cost benefit analysis, was the Davenport move a success, based on his body of work comparative to the cost it took to get him? I’d argue no, it wasn’t a successful move. I do agree however that going back and comparing player to player from previous draft’s is a nonsensical argument. We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles. We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts. gosaints1 likes this.

02-14-2021, 09:08 AM	#2
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL... Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles. We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts. Fully understand, and agree. I also liked the move to go get Davenport, aka the guy we really liked. I can separate the reality of the situation now from the unknowns at the time the draft processes were in action. I won’t beat the coaches up over this one, imho, it was simply an aggressive move to get a guy that had/has tremendous upside..., but just hasn’t worked out well here, so far. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-14-2021, 08:53 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL... Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We had a stocked roster where one or two players could put us over the top. Payton tends to move up for the players who can fill a role in our system. Quality over quantity! I liked the move because Armstead is so fluid. No one knew he dinged up easily or would tear his Achilles. We may take a different draft approach this year and actually trade back to get more ammunition. We need a lot of cheap contracts. And yet the 2009 team had lesser talent and won the whole thing... Quality over quantity, totally agree. But wouldn't it be better to have just one or two elite players and have a number of players at all the positions, than have holes at the end of the season? Name the stacked rosters of the Patriots Championship teams; most won't get past Brady and Gronk; but they were loaded with role players... You gotta have more darts for the draft dart board and you have to have salary cap flexibility, otherwise you can't adjust to get better or, if you've made it, change it up to keep the competition off-balance... SmashMouth likes this.
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