Latavius Murray

SmashMouth · 02-18-2021, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Kwon Alexander and Janoris Jenkins are the only direct moves that can be made to relieve the cap with minimal dead money; the negative is the loss of talent...

It is far more costly to move Taysom Hill without a sign and trade deal; same with Cam...

Moving Armstead makes sense, since Ramczyk could play LT and has to be extended; plus they're some great RTs that could be had in the first and second round...

Not to mention, Armstead has been a frequent IR club member. I'd be on board with trading him for a number 1. We'd kill a couple of birds in cap relief and additional draft capital.

Rugby Saint II · 02-18-2021, 05:06 PM

It's a business and no more than Sean used him it's just not worth the cost.

SaintGnome · 02-18-2021, 06:11 PM

If we're downgrading at QB (which we almost certainly are) then IMO it's better to keep better skill position players so we can to make up for it. Make our CAP cuts else where or extend or restructure him to make him more CAP friendly if that's possible. $0.02

st thomas · 02-18-2021, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Agreed. I wish Murray was used more. He was a chain mover. He would've been a good 1-2 punch with Kamara. But if we didn't hand the ball off to AK, then Sean wanted to throw it.

I want him here, but holy smokes, use him! He shouldn't be sitting on a shelve spelling AK 5 or 6 snaps a game.

Agreed but he’s not a Payton toy(draft pick) so he’s has to cut a better deal or he’s a goner. He’ll get a rookie and a has been on the roster.

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st thomas · 02-18-2021, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Agreed but he’s not a Payton toy(draft pick) so he’s has to cut a better deal or he’s a goner. He’ll get a rookie and a has been on the roster.

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jeanpierre · 02-18-2021, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And without a geriatric Qb it won’t hurt so bad if our oline takes a small step back for a year.

Well, in so far as the offensive line, losing Armstead is significant, but our problem is our interior offensive line which is a hot mess...

Peat, despite getting a big, fat contract, is still playing uninspired football; unfortunately his contract makes it prohibitive to release him, nor is he an attractive trade option when you combine his play/contract...

McCoy has really showed some RPMs as a big man who can get out and move to break open big runs; unfortunately he's had to stay inside at Center because Ruiz was unable to take the reigns, to be continued...

Ruiz was unable to grasp the transition to the NFL game; maybe it was because of the abbreviated off-season with the Wuhan viral pandemic; this is the biggest question mark besides quarterback on offense...

And we had to cut our swing-man, Nick Easton due to a serious concussion problem; know the cut, loss of potential income sucks, but I don't want this guy to have more permanent damage...

Worse, because of the corner Payton and Loomis have painted themselves into with our salary cap position, we're unable to take advantage of the terrific guards in the 2021 Free Agency class...

st thomas · 02-18-2021, 06:28 PM

Quon has to be released I’m hearing he wouldn’t be 100% till half a season or more. Draft Draft draft we have to hit.

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Boston Saint · 02-18-2021, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Quon has to be released I’m hearing he wouldn’t be 100% till half a season or more. Draft Draft draft we have to hit.

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Considering they don’t have a lot of draft picks, I’d say it’s UDFA UDFA we have to hit.

lee909 · 02-18-2021, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And without a geriatric Qb it won’t hurt so bad if our oline takes a small step back for a year.

Really don't think we want to see Winston as QB throwing on the run and under pressure

K Major · 02-18-2021, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Ruiz was unable to grasp the transition to the NFL game; maybe it was because of the abbreviated off-season with the Wuhan viral pandemic; this is the biggest question mark besides quarterback on offense...

And we had cut our swingman due to a serious concussion problem...

Ruiz needs to continue with building more muscle mass this off season. He was bullied quite a bit.

I hope Easton calls it a career. 3 concussions in a season is not good for his overall quality of life after football.

Not a popular name on the O line but I hope we find a way to re sign James Hurst. He's a versatile lineman who played well in relief.

02-18-2021, 02:23 PM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by jeanpierre Kwon Alexander and Janoris Jenkins are the only direct moves that can be made to relieve the cap with minimal dead money; the negative is the loss of talent... It is far more costly to move Taysom Hill without a sign and trade deal; same with Cam... Moving Armstead makes sense, since Ramczyk could play LT and has to be extended; plus they're some great RTs that could be had in the first and second round... Not to mention, Armstead has been a frequent IR club member. I'd be on board with trading him for a number 1. We'd kill a couple of birds in cap relief and additional draft capital. jnormand, jeanpierre and gosaints1 like this.

02-18-2021, 05:06 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: Latavius Murray It's a business and no more than Sean used him it's just not worth the cost.

02-18-2021, 06:11 PM	#13
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Latavius Murray If we're downgrading at QB (which we almost certainly are) then IMO it's better to keep better skill position players so we can to make up for it. Make our CAP cuts else where or extend or restructure him to make him more CAP friendly if that's possible. $0.02 The Dude and Boston Saint like this.

02-18-2021, 06:21 PM	#14
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by jnormand Agreed. I wish Murray was used more. He was a chain mover. He would've been a good 1-2 punch with Kamara. But if we didn't hand the ball off to AK, then Sean wanted to throw it. I want him here, but holy smokes, use him! He shouldn't be sitting on a shelve spelling AK 5 or 6 snaps a game. Agreed but he’s not a Payton toy(draft pick) so he’s has to cut a better deal or he’s a goner. He’ll get a rookie and a has been on the roster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by st thomas Agreed but he’s not a Payton toy(draft pick) so he’s has to cut a better deal or he’s a goner. He’ll get a rookie and a has been on the roster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Prolly AP Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by The Dude And without a geriatric Qb it won’t hurt so bad if our oline takes a small step back for a year. Well, in so far as the offensive line, losing Armstead is significant, but our problem is our interior offensive line which is a hot mess... Peat, despite getting a big, fat contract, is still playing uninspired football; unfortunately his contract makes it prohibitive to release him, nor is he an attractive trade option when you combine his play/contract... McCoy has really showed some RPMs as a big man who can get out and move to break open big runs; unfortunately he's had to stay inside at Center because Ruiz was unable to take the reigns, to be continued... Ruiz was unable to grasp the transition to the NFL game; maybe it was because of the abbreviated off-season with the Wuhan viral pandemic; this is the biggest question mark besides quarterback on offense... And we had to cut our swing-man, Nick Easton due to a serious concussion problem; know the cut, loss of potential income sucks, but I don't want this guy to have more permanent damage... Worse, because of the corner Payton and Loomis have painted themselves into with our salary cap position, we're unable to take advantage of the terrific guards in the 2021 Free Agency class... SmashMouth and gosaints1 like this.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Latavius Murray Quon has to be released I’m hearing he wouldn’t be 100% till half a season or more. Draft Draft draft we have to hit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by st thomas Quon has to be released I’m hearing he wouldn’t be 100% till half a season or more. Draft Draft draft we have to hit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Considering they don’t have a lot of draft picks, I’d say it’s UDFA UDFA we have to hit.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by The Dude And without a geriatric Qb it won’t hurt so bad if our oline takes a small step back for a year. Really don't think we want to see Winston as QB throwing on the run and under pressure Boston Saint likes this.

02-18-2021, 07:42 PM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Latavius Murray Originally Posted by jeanpierre Ruiz was unable to grasp the transition to the NFL game; maybe it was because of the abbreviated off-season with the Wuhan viral pandemic; this is the biggest question mark besides quarterback on offense... And we had cut our swingman due to a serious concussion problem... Ruiz needs to continue with building more muscle mass this off season. He was bullied quite a bit. I hope Easton calls it a career. 3 concussions in a season is not good for his overall quality of life after football. Not a popular name on the O line but I hope we find a way to re sign James Hurst. He's a versatile lineman who played well in relief. jeanpierre and gosaints1 like this.