Brees coming back?

AsylumGuido · 02-23-2021, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wow. Just wow. I’m speechless.

Thank God.

gulfgambler · 02-22-2021, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That is absolutely true....within 20-30 yards. After that not so much. Don't get me wrong I love Drew but this is really a young mans game.

Drew finished tied for 13TH in the league w/ 7.5 yards per attempt.
And that was w/o MT for 90% of the season. Sanders missed 4 games, Tre' Quan missed 4 games and your free agent TE was a bust.
Which led to dumping off to AK too often.

neugey · 02-22-2021, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Any other position (except kicker/punter) on the field and he would be done and possibly would have a year or two ago. This has become a QB starved league. Even hurt he's still top 10 and healthy top 5.

We could debate what Brees has left in the tank, but I certainly don't see the NFL as being QB starved, not at all. I mean, we managed to sign Winston to be a backup for close to league minimum last offseason. The success of Burrow and Herbert has also bolstered a position that is pretty strong compared to usual league-wide.

Boston Saint · 02-22-2021, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

We could debate what Brees has left in the tank, but I certainly don't see the NFL as being QB starved, not at all. I mean, we managed to sign Winston to be a backup for close to league minimum last offseason. The success of Burrow and Herbert has also bolstered a position that is pretty strong compared to usual league-wide.

I kinda have the same feelings as far as QBs. If you are a good organization with sound coaching and management, then (barring mass injuries) you can be competitive and in the playoff hunt with a variety of QB options out there. Saints did fine with fill ins when Brees was down. Although they had a down year, New England was competitive as hell last year and was in the playoff hunt until late in the season with Scam as the QB. Dallas was competitive as well when they were down to their 3rd QB.

A good offensive mind like Payton’s can hopefully figure out how to move on from here. The day they are in the bottom 10 for offense and scoring I’ll start to re-evaluate him.

Boston Saint · 02-22-2021, 05:52 PM

Indeed. Plus, going back to early Payton tenure, his offense has allways featured getting the ball to RBs through the pass. Bush, Thomas, Sproles, Kamara were all superior pass catching RBs. When a third plus of your passes go to RBs then your yard per attempt is likely to go down.

jnormand · 02-22-2021, 06:57 PM

Great points here in this thread! Love the back and forth!

rezburna · 02-23-2021, 07:48 AM

Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy.

The Dude · 02-23-2021, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy.

The new innovated scheme is exactly what we we’ve seen the last few years and it works great until we get to the point where we're facing teams with the talent and coaching to make the playoffs. The ship has sailed and I agree that Winston is the best shot we have given our circumstances.

st thomas · 02-23-2021, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy.

Good point Rez, the only way I see him coming back is a semi backup role. It will never happen though . Love Brees to death , never dreamed he would have to go out with a season like the last one. I if all wanted him to set the TD record. But Brady the greedy bastard will have it all.

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Boston Saint · 02-23-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy.

Could be Rez. I have no issue if Winston is the QB next year. I also don’t have a problem if it’s Brees. I respect you and your opinion. I’m just not sure I agree with writing the loss off to a Brees weak arm when Tampa took out two of the strongest arms in the game in Rodgers and Mahomes right after they beat the Saints. If Cook doesn’t play like a scrub Or they had another healthy target on the field, then the Saints win that game. Just my view of things.

02-23-2021, 08:11 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by The Dude Wow. Just wow. I’m speechless. Thank God.

02-22-2021, 05:43 PM	#2
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That is absolutely true....within 20-30 yards. After that not so much. Don't get me wrong I love Drew but this is really a young mans game. Drew finished tied for 13TH in the league w/ 7.5 yards per attempt. And that was w/o MT for 90% of the season. Sanders missed 4 games, Tre' Quan missed 4 games and your free agent TE was a bust. Which led to dumping off to AK too often. st thomas and Boston Saint like this.

02-22-2021, 01:42 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Any other position (except kicker/punter) on the field and he would be done and possibly would have a year or two ago. This has become a QB starved league. Even hurt he's still top 10 and healthy top 5. We could debate what Brees has left in the tank, but I certainly don't see the NFL as being QB starved, not at all. I mean, we managed to sign Winston to be a backup for close to league minimum last offseason. The success of Burrow and Herbert has also bolstered a position that is pretty strong compared to usual league-wide. Boston Saint likes this.

02-22-2021, 07:10 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by neugey We could debate what Brees has left in the tank, but I certainly don't see the NFL as being QB starved, not at all. I mean, we managed to sign Winston to be a backup for close to league minimum last offseason. The success of Burrow and Herbert has also bolstered a position that is pretty strong compared to usual league-wide. I kinda have the same feelings as far as QBs. If you are a good organization with sound coaching and management, then (barring mass injuries) you can be competitive and in the playoff hunt with a variety of QB options out there. Saints did fine with fill ins when Brees was down. Although they had a down year, New England was competitive as hell last year and was in the playoff hunt until late in the season with Scam as the QB. Dallas was competitive as well when they were down to their 3rd QB. A good offensive mind like Payton’s can hopefully figure out how to move on from here. The day they are in the bottom 10 for offense and scoring I’ll start to re-evaluate him.
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02-22-2021, 05:52 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Brees coming back? Indeed. Plus, going back to early Payton tenure, his offense has allways featured getting the ball to RBs through the pass. Bush, Thomas, Sproles, Kamara were all superior pass catching RBs. When a third plus of your passes go to RBs then your yard per attempt is likely to go down. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Brees coming back? Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy. dizzle88 and st thomas like this.

02-23-2021, 08:44 AM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by rezburna Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy. The new innovated scheme is exactly what we we’ve seen the last few years and it works great until we get to the point where we're facing teams with the talent and coaching to make the playoffs. The ship has sailed and I agree that Winston is the best shot we have given our circumstances.
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02-23-2021, 08:45 AM	#9
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by rezburna Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy. Good point Rez, the only way I see him coming back is a semi backup role. It will never happen though . Love Brees to death , never dreamed he would have to go out with a season like the last one. I if all wanted him to set the TD record. But Brady the greedy bastard will have it all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-23-2021, 09:15 AM	#10
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by rezburna Jameis Winston is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, Nick Foles, and Joe Flacco. He can win it all here. I believe he’s the best option. Yes, even over Drew Brees. I don’t know how many more times we have to watch the offense sputter in the playoffs because a good team is playing tight and taking away everything short. If Drew Brees were to come back it would have to be accompanied with a new, innovative scheme to mask those deficiencies. Either that or he needs to start taking HGH and getting stem cell therapy. Could be Rez. I have no issue if Winston is the QB next year. I also don’t have a problem if it’s Brees. I respect you and your opinion. I’m just not sure I agree with writing the loss off to a Brees weak arm when Tampa took out two of the strongest arms in the game in Rodgers and Mahomes right after they beat the Saints. If Cook doesn’t play like a scrub Or they had another healthy target on the field, then the Saints win that game. Just my view of things. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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