Brees coming back?

gosaints1 · 02-23-2021, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And all three are Hall of Fame worthy, right? They kept winning. Simply being young isn't the key to being a success as a QB as implied. They all had long successful careers because they were quality QB's. Playing QB isn't a young man's game these days. Being a quality QB is the key to winning.

The list I shared is made up entirely of either future HOF QB's or veterans. And most all of them had a top notch defense, as well.

Good QB’s, all of them, who had their day in the sun..., an argument can be made that Aaron Rodgers, fresh off his MVP title, is still playing at an elite level at a more advanced age. But, let’s look at the numbers deeper.

Eli Manning:

Manning won his SB’s at ages 27 and 31. After his final SB at age 31, he made the playoffs once, a loss. Then promptly retired. So, he wasn’t successful after age 31, at all.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/

Big Ben:

Both Ben’s SB wins came early, ages 23 and 26. Even his SB loss was at age 28. Since that SB loss, Big Ben led Steelers have made the playoffs 6 (six) times. Of those six appearances, they lost immediately four times. They lost in the divisional round (age 33) and at the AFC Championship round (age 34) once also. He hasn’t done anything since age 34. And the following very recent statement about Big Ben isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of the player.

"As we sit here today, Ben is a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. ... He reiterated to us that he wants to continue to play. We told him we have to look at this current situation." - Pittsburg Steelers GM Kevin Colbert

https://mobile.twitter.com/bepryor/s...00804337958912

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/

Aaron Rodgers:

This is the player that is still playing well, and being successful in the playoffs also. But his lone SB appearance was a decade ago, Feb 2011 (age 27) via the 2010 NFL season. Since then, he’s been to the NFC Championship game three times, all losses (ages 31, 33, and 37). But I agree here, he is still playing well, MVP level according to the NFL, and being .500 (2 wins, 2 losses) in the playoffs after the age of 36. But his window is closing quickly..., very, very quickly imho.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/

Bottom line, there are exceptions to every rule. But the idea that SB success is built around an “aged” veteran SB in their mid to late 30’s/early 40’s is faulty. There is a “sweet spot”, roughly at 31. The gradual decline begins for all of us, even the greatest athletes.

As others around here have quipped - Father Time remains undefeated.

AsylumGuido · 02-23-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Bottom line, there are exceptions to every rule. But the idea that SB success is built around an “aged” veteran SB in their mid to late 30’s/early 40’s is faulty. There is a “sweet spot”, roughly at 31. The gradual decline begins for all of us, even the greatest athletes.

As others around here have quipped - Father Time remains undefeated.

I never said anywhere that Super Bowl success is built upon an "aged" veteran. My reply was to the statement that QBing in today's NFL is now a "young man's game". I was trying to point out that this is not true and success more often comes as a result of talent and/or experience for a QB. I'll take that over fresh young legs or a young strong arm any day.

02-23-2021, 09:45 AM	#1
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And all three are Hall of Fame worthy, right? They kept winning. Simply being young isn't the key to being a success as a QB as implied. They all had long successful careers because they were quality QB's. Playing QB isn't a young man's game these days. Being a quality QB is the key to winning. The list I shared is made up entirely of either future HOF QB's or veterans. And most all of them had a top notch defense, as well. Good QB’s, all of them, who had their day in the sun..., an argument can be made that Aaron Rodgers, fresh off his MVP title, is still playing at an elite level at a more advanced age. But, let’s look at the numbers deeper. Eli Manning: Manning won his SB’s at ages 27 and 31. After his final SB at age 31, he made the playoffs once, a loss. Then promptly retired. So, he wasn’t successful after age 31, at all. https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/ Big Ben: Both Ben’s SB wins came early, ages 23 and 26. Even his SB loss was at age 28. Since that SB loss, Big Ben led Steelers have made the playoffs 6 (six) times. Of those six appearances, they lost immediately four times. They lost in the divisional round (age 33) and at the AFC Championship round (age 34) once also. He hasn’t done anything since age 34. And the following very recent statement about Big Ben isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of the player. "As we sit here today, Ben is a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. ... He reiterated to us that he wants to continue to play. We told him we have to look at this current situation." - Pittsburg Steelers GM Kevin Colbert https://mobile.twitter.com/bepryor/s...00804337958912 https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/ Aaron Rodgers: This is the player that is still playing well, and being successful in the playoffs also. But his lone SB appearance was a decade ago, Feb 2011 (age 27) via the 2010 NFL season. Since then, he’s been to the NFC Championship game three times, all losses (ages 31, 33, and 37). But I agree here, he is still playing well, MVP level according to the NFL, and being .500 (2 wins, 2 losses) in the playoffs after the age of 36. But his window is closing quickly..., very, very quickly imho. https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/ Bottom line, there are exceptions to every rule. But the idea that SB success is built around an “aged” veteran SB in their mid to late 30’s/early 40’s is faulty. There is a “sweet spot”, roughly at 31. The gradual decline begins for all of us, even the greatest athletes. As others around here have quipped - Father Time remains undefeated. K Major likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by gosaints1 Bottom line, there are exceptions to every rule. But the idea that SB success is built around an “aged” veteran SB in their mid to late 30’s/early 40’s is faulty. There is a “sweet spot”, roughly at 31. The gradual decline begins for all of us, even the greatest athletes. As others around here have quipped - Father Time remains undefeated. I never said anywhere that Super Bowl success is built upon an "aged" veteran. My reply was to the statement that QBing in today's NFL is now a "young man's game". I was trying to point out that this is not true and success more often comes as a result of talent and/or experience for a QB. I'll take that over fresh young legs or a young strong arm any day.