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K Major 10-05-2021 04:16 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 930625)
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lee909 10-05-2021 04:16 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 930625)
Thats some real bottom of the barrel scrapings

K Major 10-05-2021 04:20 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 930625)
I always liked Duke Johnson ... specifically his work with the Texans.

Sucks we lost (3-4 weeks) Jones Jr though. He had a nice camp and looked decent in the regular season. He has a burst.

Ice up.

ChrisXVI 10-05-2021 04:29 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930629)
I always liked Duke Johnson ... specifically his work with the Texans.

Sucks we lost (3-4 weeks) Jones Jr though. He had a nice camp and looked decent in the regular season. He has a burst.

Ice up.
Yeah I’m thinking Duke Johnson. He’s a good pass catcher.

SmashMouth 10-05-2021 05:00 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-05-2021 05:21 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930633)
He seems to think that both Tre'Quan and Thomas are ready to return physically. Both are running, catching, and working weights.

Can't wait!

ChrisXVI 10-05-2021 07:22 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Well I know some of you will be very happy about this!

K Major 10-05-2021 08:34 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Where is SMASH ?!

I know he is a fan of D.O.

jeanpierre 10-05-2021 11:10 PM
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jeanpierre 10-05-2021 11:11 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 930628)
Thats some real bottom of the barrel scrapings
Week 5 of the season, Lee, what'd you expect?

jeanpierre 10-05-2021 11:12 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Five, Rev. 5.0 (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (4) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021)

FB (2) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas (ACTIVE/PUP), 1 - Marquez Callaway, 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 17 - Kevin White (PS 2021)

WR-S (3) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *OUT, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy *OUT, 51 - Cesar Ruiz

RG (1) 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly II (PS 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206), 66 - Jordan Mills (PS 2021)

TE (2) 82 - Adam Trautman, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021)

WR-Z (1) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (PS 2021), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)

NT (3) 97 - Malcolm Roach, 95 - Albert Huggins (PS 2021), 52 - Montravius Adams (FA 2021)

DT (2) 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021), 99 - Shy Tuttle, 91 - Josiah Bronson (PS/UDFA 2021), 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (1) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (PS 2021)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 31 - Marcus Trufant (FA 2021), 28 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 35 - KeiVarae Russell (PS UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 6 - Cody Parkey (FA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 26; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

73 - Ethan Greenidge

33 - Brian Poole (FA 2021)

3 - Wil Lutz

64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021)

81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021)

25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)

10 - Tre'Quan Smith

5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021)

92 - Marcus Davenport

42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)



Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Non-Football Injury


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 10-05-2021 11:30 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Doesn't sound like good news on the DE front as well...

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 07:57 AM
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K Major 10-06-2021 08:03 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930660)
Who is this Trequan Smith fella they keep mentioning :D ?

jeanpierre 10-06-2021 08:25 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Tre'Quan looks high...

jeanpierre 10-06-2021 08:29 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Was glad to see us get Bryce Thompson back; needs a lot of work, but the raw athleticism is intriguing...

Our Pass Rush must be in trouble (Thank You Captain Obvious, but am referring to injuries) for us to essentially promote Jalyn Holmes...

Why not go out an sign the Verity kid off the Ravens Practice Squad? he'd made that 58 yard FGA, or you'd at least liked your chances more...

K Major 10-06-2021 08:31 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930682)
Why not go out an sign the Verity kid off the Ravens Practice Squad? he'd made that 58 yard FGA, or you'd at least liked your chances more..
Stubborn coach.

jeanpierre 10-06-2021 08:33 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930644)
Where is SMASH ?!

I know he is a fan of D.O.
He took the loss hard, he's still on the bike...

...or he may have been at the airport to rickshaw Ozigbo down Williams to Airline Highway...

iceshack149 10-06-2021 10:56 AM
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AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 11:29 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930682)
Was glad to see us get Bryce Thompson back; needs a lot of work, but the raw athleticism is intriguing...

Our Pass Rush must be in trouble (Thank You Captain Obvious, but am referring to injuries) for us to essentially promote Jalyn Holmes...

Why not go out an sign the Verity kid off the Ravens Practice Squad? he'd made that 58 yard FGA, or you'd at least liked your chances more...
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930683)
Stubborn coach.
Why doesn't any of the other 31 NFL teams sign Verity if he's as good as some around here imagine? Explain please.

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 11:53 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930644)
Where is SMASH ?!

I know he is a fan of D.O.
He deserved his own thread!

His hands are better than most RBs not named Kamara or Marshall Faulk.

K Major 10-06-2021 11:58 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930727)
He deserved his own thread!

His hands are better than most RBs not named Kamara or Marshall Faulk.
Great. Promote him for Sunday?

We can always use another capable pass catcher in the screen game.

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2021 01:52 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The most exciting addition is a backup kicker. Nothing to see hear. Move along. :wink:

Edit: I am referring to the short term like this week. Ozigbo should be even better now.

K Major 10-06-2021 03:42 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Saints need to trade for a TE/WR. I see the Texans released Anthony Miller. I'd take him over Southlake (Lil Jordan) or Hogan right now.

We desperately need more guys with route-running ability.

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 04:03 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930764)
Saints need to trade for a TE/WR. I see the Texans released Anthony Miller. I'd take him over Southlake (Lil Jordan) or Hogan right now.

We desperately need more guys with route-running ability.
Like Thomas and Smith? Both will be back before anyone we could pick up would become versed with the offense. You'd take Anthony Miller over Smith or Thomas? Hogan and Lil'Jordan will be the odd men out once those two return. Thomas, Smith, Callaway, Stills, and Harris make for a pretty solid top five and are all better than anyone out there now, right?

K Major 10-06-2021 04:14 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930770)
Like Thomas and Smith? Both will be back before anyone we could pick up would become versed with the offense. You'd take Anthony Miller over Smith or Thomas?
AG

Did you READ my post? I CLEARLY stated I’d take Miller over Jordan H and HOGAN. These guys are useless.

Thomas is currently on PUP and Sprainquan is NEVER AVAILABLE. When he plays he’s had little impact. You do know they are kicking it off on Sunday WITHOUT those guys right ?

Not sure if you were watching closely last week but this team isn’t good enough right now and MT OR ghost can’t help us vs Washington.

Take off the Saints glasses and watch the games for what they are.

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 04:21 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930772)
AG

Did you READ my post? I CLEARLY stated I’d take Miller over Jordan H and HOGAN. These guys are useless.

Thomas is currently on PUP and Sprainquan is NEVER AVAILABLE. When he plays he’s had little impact. You do know they are kicking it off on Sunday WITHOUT those guys right ?

Not sure if you were watching closely last week but this team isn’t good enough right now and MT OR ghost can’t help us vs Washington.

Take off the Saints glasses and watch the games for what they are.
Did you read my post? There is nobody we can sign right now that's going to make any impact before both Thomas and Smith return. I watch the games. I know what I am talking about. Dreaming that some WR that has no knowledge of our offense is going to come in and have any impact immediately is ridiculous. Stills was able to step in as quickly as he did because we are using the exact same terminology and most likely many of the same base concepts as when he was last in the WR room.

Curtis Johnson said both Thomas and Smith are physically ready to play now in his opinion. They'll be back before anyone we would bring in would have any meaningful impact.

jeanpierre 10-06-2021 04:29 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930721)
Why doesn't any of the other 31 NFL teams sign Verity if he's as good as some around here imagine? Explain please.
Because he's a rookie that's never kicked in an NFL game, and some coaches might be afraid to take that chance...

On that point, I've totally believed in Adebo, my favorite pick of the draft, and I've defended him, preaching patience, still surprised Payton let him start as a rookie...

K Major 10-06-2021 04:32 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Stubborn coach taking L’s.

Doing the same thing expecting a different result.

Insanity.

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 04:33 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930777)
Because he's a rookie that's never kicked in an NFL game, and some coaches might be afraid to take that chance...

On that point, I've totally believed in Adebo, my favorite pick of the draft, and I've defended him, preaching patience, still surprised Payton let him start as a rookie...
Bingo! Most coaches know better than hanging their hat on that.

jeanpierre 10-06-2021 04:34 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Five, Rev. 5.1 (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (4) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 28 - Devine Ozigbo (FA 2021), 00 - Ryquell Armstead (PS 2021)

FB (2) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas (ACTIVE/PUP), 1 - Marquez Callaway, 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 17 - Kevin White (PS 2021)

WR-S (3) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *OUT, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy *OUT, 51 - Cesar Ruiz

RG (1) 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly II (PS 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206), 66 - Jordan Mills (PS 2021)

TE (2) 82 - Adam Trautman, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021)

WR-Z (1) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (PS 2021), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)

NT (3) 97 - Malcolm Roach, 95 - Albert Huggins (PS 2021), 52 - Montravius Adams (FA 2021)

DT (2) 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021), 99 - Shy Tuttle, 91 - Josiah Bronson (PS/UDFA 2021), 93 - David Onyemata (6 Gm Suspension)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (1) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (PS 2021)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 31 - Marcus Trufant (FA 2021), 28 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 35 - KeiVarae Russell (PS UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 6 - Cody Parkey (FA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 25; Defense: 25; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

73 - Ethan Greenidge

33 - Brian Poole (FA 2021)

3 - Wil Lutz

64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021)

81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021)

25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)

10 - Tre'Quan Smith

5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021)

92 - Marcus Davenport

42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)



Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Non-Football Injury


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

AsylumGuido 10-06-2021 04:41 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930778)
Stubborn coach taking L’s.

Doing the same thing expecting a different result.

Insanity.
Who would you propose they cut to pick up Miller, who wouldn't be ready to play against Washington this week and most likely not Seattle next week? There are roster constraints to deal with. You have two players close to returning, as well.

I somewhat understand your frustration, but kneejerk grasping for free agent straws may not be the most logical approach. Who's to guarantee Miller doesn't come in and totally stink it up, even if he could get ready in time for the Seahawks? In the meantime we have booted someone to the curb that we have spent time working with this season.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side, K.

K Major 10-06-2021 10:30 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
3 - Wil Lutz

Ice up Lutz. Hope to get you back after the bye.

AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 01:53 PM
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ChrisXVI 10-09-2021 03:54 PM
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cmike 10-09-2021 04:54 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 930941)
Forget what all the haters are saying. We bout to be a d@mn good team in the coming weeks.

Boston Saint 10-09-2021 07:07 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmike (Post 930942)
Forget what all the haters are saying. We bout to be a d@mn good team in the coming weeks.
It certainly can happen. Many players who can contribute are “due” to come back from injuries/suspensions in the next few weeks. Don’t get any more banged up and the team should be able to compete with anyone around week 9.

jeanpierre 10-10-2021 07:22 AM
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jeanpierre 10-10-2021 07:22 AM
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jeanpierre 10-10-2021 07:23 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930794)
3 - Wil Lutz

Ice up Lutz. Hope to get you back after the bye.
At least one loss for not signing a better kicker...


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