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2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency
***UPDATING*** OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021) FB (1) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021) RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021) WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr. KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 55; Offense: 28; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Waivers (Wv 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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Nice... all we are missing is the cap status.
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Imagine once league office has approved the recent crop of free agent contracts, Saints FO will rework some of these cap numbers that are reflected in the above number:
Since Marcus Williams hasn't signed his franchise tag, we're essentially right there at the cap... |
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Cornerback #2 has become a huge hole.
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Big needs at all three levels of the defense. CB and LB looks awful.
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Played QB (so he has the IQ), safety and shifted to LB at NDS and LSU. Has good hips & change of pace like Devan Smith of Tampa. Assassins are needed. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021) RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021) WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr. KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Waivers (Wv 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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I really like Kyle Trask, and I'd love either Trask or Cox in the second round... Would also like to take a swipe at Stanford QB Davis Mills in the early third round... We get our QB or CB2 in R1, a OLB or QB or CB2 in R2 and then the remainder in early R3, maybe pickup an IOL with the other R3 pick - that'd be just swell... |
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We’re getting into dangerous “draft for need” territory now.
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Think about it, at some point when you over use the free agency route, a team's cap will inevitably reach critical mass and you end up losing more players than you'd like... We had a healthy balance of Draft and Free Agency last in 2017 which was a single biggest jump in regular season success in years... In fact, maybe not popular, but we'd been better had Drew retired as was initially anticipated the previous season (with a Superbowl win)... And we'd taken our lumps this past season so we could jump up in a deep QB class this year - if Taysom or Other Kid is not our next guy... |
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Current list of players lost in Free Agency/retirement :
E Sanders Brees J Cook Josh Hill N Easton T Rex M Brown Hardee Janoris Jenkins Kwon A. Morstead |
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Really liked what I saw of Grant Haley in Week 17; Washington has the raw talent, so we'll see what Kris Richard can do; but damn, sure hope we can re-sign our DBs depth...
P.J. Williams (who I'd like to see if Richard can improve his trajectory), and even Ken Crawley; that would at least minimize need... |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021) RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Waivers (Wv 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021) RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Waivers (Wv 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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Biggest holes in the roster are CB2 - maybe Kris Richard can turn P.J. around?
Linebacker opposite DeMario - Baun just looks like a JACK LBer to me, not that that's bad, he just doesn't seem fluid enough to cover like a second WILL... Like our depth at DT, but we really need a quality running mate with Onyemata on the inside... And then there's the interior offensive line - still have question marks about Ruiz and Peat... We can draft a speedster WRz (if Sean doesn't f'up and move up) in the third round... And we're gonna need to sign a TE2 for the jumbo packages - but I've heard Ethan Wolf already can be our TE3, so there's that... Then there's that whole "competition" thing at quarterback... |
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As far as LB goes... I love Baun as a football player. I don’t love Baun in our scheme. We should’ve traded him and kept Malcom Brown. |
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Sure, the odds aren't there and we definitely need another horse in the DB stable, but just like to see what Richard can get out of this group, even Crawley for depth... |
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Question Mark(s) are obviously quarterback, and defensive end...
Team Needs: Cornerback Linebacker Defensive Tackle Interior Offensive Line |
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Why we francised Marcus Williams who is never there over the top and didn’t hold on to Janoris Jenkins is beyond me
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I read somewhere that we re-signed Dan Arnold. Please don't quote me though and no, I don't have a link. :wink:
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency
OFFENSE QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021) FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021) RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021) WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021) NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021) MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr. NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Non-Football Injury Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Opt-Out KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Waivers (Wv 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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Saints still need a legit #2 WR ... list of notable names still available.
Snead Golden Tate Westbrook Sammy Watkins (always hurt) Josh Reynolds |
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I don't think he's ready for that full time #2 role just yet. |
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But I’ve been very impressed so far and it wouldn’t surprise me if he passes up on the depth chart any vet we could afford..., very quickly. |
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Damnit, Sean, play the rookies, let 'em learn - Do your job and coach 'em up... |
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Marquez has shown exceptional ability however he is a undrafted gem. Remember it took Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead adequate time to develop. I'd hate for Callaway to lose confidence at such a young age. We'll see. |
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Sean has got to get over this aversion to playing rookies with meaningful playing time - spend more time coaching, and less in the scouting offices, front office... |
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