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jeanpierre 03-16-2021 01:13 AM

2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

***UPDATING***

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 55; Offense: 28; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

SmashMouth 03-16-2021 01:21 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Nice... all we are missing is the cap status.

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 01:36 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916336)
Nice... all we are missing is the cap status.

As of yesterday, OverTheCap had us at ($10,113,021)* in the hole...

Imagine once league office has approved the recent crop of free agent contracts, Saints FO will rework some of these cap numbers that are reflected in the above number:

  • Terron Armstead $16,225,000

  • Ryan Ramczyk $11,064,000

  • Marcus Williams $10,612,000 *Included Against Cap

  • Marshon Lattimore $10,244,000

Since Marcus Williams hasn't signed his franchise tag, we're essentially right there at the cap...

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 11:50 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2021 02:06 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916335)
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

***UPDATING***

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 55; Offense: 28; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

Not one decent back up LB'er and only one quality starter. This must be addressed in the draft. Kwon showed us what can happen with two good LB'ers. Imagine having three where we could run more true 4-3 defenses.

K Major 03-16-2021 04:08 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Cornerback #2 has become a huge hole.

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 04:25 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916414)
Not one decent back up LB'er and only one quality starter. This must be addressed in the draft. Kwon showed us what can happen with two good LB'ers. Imagine having three where we could run more true 4-3 defenses.

Rugs, no one really runs much 4-3 any more; you're taking college star linebackers now and making them inside strong safeties...

ChrisXVI 03-16-2021 04:30 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Big needs at all three levels of the defense. CB and LB looks awful.

K Major 03-16-2021 04:31 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916430)
Rugs, no one really runs much 4-3 any more; you're taking college star linebackers now and making them inside strong safeties...

Jabrill Cox in the 2nd?

Played QB (so he has the IQ), safety and shifted to LB at NDS and LSU. Has good hips & change of pace like Devan Smith of Tampa.

Assassins are needed.

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2021 05:08 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916430)
Rugs, no one really runs much 4-3 any more; you're taking college star linebackers now and making them inside strong safeties...

Maybe that's why we've been running a 4-2-5 lately. I thought it was out of necessity. Thanks for sharing.

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 05:33 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 05:35 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916433)
Jabrill Cox in the 2nd?

Played QB (so he has the IQ), safety and shifted to LB at NDS and LSU. Has good hips & change of pace like Devan Smith of Tampa.

Assassins are needed.

Yep, said it earlier in the Draft Thread; he'd be terrific value in the second round...

I really like Kyle Trask, and I'd love either Trask or Cox in the second round...

Would also like to take a swipe at Stanford QB Davis Mills in the early third round...

We get our QB or CB2 in R1, a OLB or QB or CB2 in R2 and then the remainder in early R3, maybe pickup an IOL with the other R3 pick - that'd be just swell...

ChrisXVI 03-16-2021 06:39 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
We’re getting into dangerous “draft for need” territory now.

jeanpierre 03-16-2021 08:20 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916456)
We’re getting into dangerous “draft for need” territory now.

Well, it had to happen, Chris...

Think about it, at some point when you over use the free agency route, a team's cap will inevitably reach critical mass and you end up losing more players than you'd like...

We had a healthy balance of Draft and Free Agency last in 2017 which was a single biggest jump in regular season success in years...

In fact, maybe not popular, but we'd been better had Drew retired as was initially anticipated the previous season (with a Superbowl win)...

And we'd taken our lumps this past season so we could jump up in a deep QB class this year - if Taysom or Other Kid is not our next guy...

jeanpierre 03-17-2021 06:21 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

K Major 03-17-2021 09:00 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Current list of players lost in Free Agency/retirement :

E Sanders
Brees
J Cook
Josh Hill
N Easton
T Rex
M Brown
Hardee
Janoris Jenkins
Kwon A.
Morstead

rezburna 03-17-2021 09:46 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916440)
Maybe that's why we've been running a 4-2-5 lately. I thought it was out of necessity. Thanks for sharing.

Nah, just the new wave.

jeanpierre 03-18-2021 02:07 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Really liked what I saw of Grant Haley in Week 17; Washington has the raw talent, so we'll see what Kris Richard can do; but damn, sure hope we can re-sign our DBs depth...

P.J. Williams (who I'd like to see if Richard can improve his trajectory), and even Ken Crawley; that would at least minimize need...

jeanpierre 03-18-2021 02:13 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 03-18-2021 03:31 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916577)
Really liked what I saw of Grant Haley in Week 17; Washington has the raw talent, so we'll see what Kris Richard can do; but damn, sure hope we can re-sign our DBs depth...

P.J. Williams (who I'd like to see if Richard can improve his trajectory), and even Ken Crawley; that would at least minimize need...

Getting Better...


jeanpierre 03-18-2021 03:32 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 03-18-2021 09:10 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Biggest holes in the roster are CB2 - maybe Kris Richard can turn P.J. around?

Linebacker opposite DeMario - Baun just looks like a JACK LBer to me, not that that's bad, he just doesn't seem fluid enough to cover like a second WILL...

Like our depth at DT, but we really need a quality running mate with Onyemata on the inside...

And then there's the interior offensive line - still have question marks about Ruiz and Peat...

We can draft a speedster WRz (if Sean doesn't f'up and move up) in the third round...

And we're gonna need to sign a TE2 for the jumbo packages - but I've heard Ethan Wolf already can be our TE3, so there's that...

Then there's that whole "competition" thing at quarterback...

ChrisXVI 03-18-2021 09:16 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916624)
Biggest holes in the roster are CB2 - maybe Kris Richard can turn P.J. around?

Linebacker opposite DeMario - Baun just looks like a JACK LBer to me, not that that's bad, he just doesn't seem fluid enough to cover like a second WILL...

Like our depth at DT, but we really need a quality running mate with Onyemata on the inside...

And then there's the interior offensive line - still have question marks about Ruiz and Peat...

We can draft a speedster WRz (if Sean doesn't f'up and move up) in the third round...

And we're gonna need to sign a TE2 for the jumbo packages - but I've heard Ethan Wolf already can be our TE3, so there's that...

Then there's that whole "competition" thing at quarterback...

PJ Williams isn’t the guy. Have we fallen so far in such a short time that we’re relying on PJ?!

As far as LB goes... I love Baun as a football player. I don’t love Baun in our scheme. We should’ve traded him and kept Malcom Brown.

jeanpierre 03-18-2021 10:45 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916626)
PJ Williams isn’t the guy. Have we fallen so far in such a short time that we’re relying on PJ?!

As far as LB goes... I love Baun as a football player. I don’t love Baun in our scheme. We should’ve traded him and kept Malcom Brown.

All I'm saying is I'd like to see if having Kris Richard running would have a positive effect - P.J. had a good run to start 2016 till he got horse-kicked to the back of the head...

Sure, the odds aren't there and we definitely need another horse in the DB stable, but just like to see what Richard can get out of this group, even Crawley for depth...

jeanpierre 03-20-2021 08:50 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Question Mark(s) are obviously quarterback, and defensive end...

Team Needs:

Cornerback

Linebacker

Defensive Tackle

Interior Offensive Line

Rugby Saint II 03-21-2021 12:37 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916686)
Question Mark(s) are obviously quarterback, and defensive end...

Team Needs:

Cornerback

Linebacker

Defensive Tackle

Interior Offensive Line

I totally agree. However, I won't be surprised if we used a pick on a WR. We have several early round picks.

Audiotom 03-21-2021 12:44 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Why we francised Marcus Williams who is never there over the top and didn’t hold on to Janoris Jenkins is beyond me

Rugby Saint II 03-21-2021 12:48 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I read somewhere that we re-signed Dan Arnold. Please don't quote me though and no, I don't have a link. :wink:

dizzle88 03-21-2021 01:31 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916736)
I read somewhere that we re-signed Dan Arnold. Please don't quote me though and no, I don't have a link. :wink:

Nah he signed with the Panthers on a 2 year deal.

jeanpierre 03-21-2021 06:36 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 03-21-2021 06:36 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFC 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 64 - Will Clapp (Unsigned RFA 2021)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins

LCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 56; Offense: 29; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Waivers (Wv 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

K Major 03-22-2021 08:43 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Saints still need a legit #2 WR ... list of notable names still available.

Snead
Golden Tate
Westbrook
Sammy Watkins (always hurt)
Josh Reynolds

SmashMouth 03-22-2021 08:46 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916792)
Saints still need a legit #2 WR ... list of notable names still available.

Snead
Golden Tate
Westbrook
Sammy Watkins (always hurt)
Josh Reynolds

Callaway on the roster?

K Major 03-22-2021 08:56 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916794)
Callaway on the roster?

Played terrific while Mike and Sanders (Covid) were out, however I'd like to bring in a vet.

I don't think he's ready for that full time #2 role just yet.

gosaints1 03-22-2021 10:14 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916795)
Played terrific while Mike and Sanders (Covid) were out, however I'd like to bring in a vet.

I don't think he's ready for that full time #2 role just yet.

His awareness after the catch is ready, definitely. Knowledge of the playbook and QB tendencies, along with the added pressure of full time play..., I’m not so sure also.

But I’ve been very impressed so far and it wouldn’t surprise me if he passes up on the depth chart any vet we could afford..., very quickly.

SmashMouth 03-22-2021 10:25 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916795)
Played terrific while Mike and Sanders (Covid) were out, however I'd like to bring in a vet.

I don't think he's ready for that full time #2 role just yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 916799)
His awareness after the catch is ready, definitely. Knowledge of the playbook and QB tendencies, along with the added pressure of full time play..., I’m not so sure also.

But I’ve been very impressed so far and it wouldn’t surprise me if he passes up on the depth chart any vet we could afford..., very quickly.

Was Colston ready as a rookie? Maybe Callaway can follow his footsteps. It seemed as if the commentators were raving about him.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 06:22 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916795)
Played terrific while Mike and Sanders (Covid) were out, however I'd like to bring in a vet.

I don't think he's ready for that full time #2 role just yet.

Rrefer if we spent any more cap money, that is, kick cap debt forward, it'd be for CB2 giving more freedom in the draft, check opponents from blocking in the draft...

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 06:24 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916802)
Was Colston ready as a rookie? Maybe Callaway can follow his footsteps. It seemed as if the commentators were raving about him.

Or in 2017 when we were starting four rookies (e.g. Lattimore, Ramczyk, Williams, Kamara)?

Damnit, Sean, play the rookies, let 'em learn - Do your job and coach 'em up...

K Major 03-23-2021 07:59 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916856)
Or in 2017 when we were starting four rookies (e.g. Lattimore, Ramczyk, Williams, Kamara)?

True however these guys (except AK) were high round draft selections so the expectations are a lot higher.

Marquez has shown exceptional ability however he is a undrafted gem. Remember it took Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead adequate time to develop. I'd hate for Callaway to lose confidence at such a young age.

We'll see.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 09:03 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916857)
True however these guys (except AK) were high round draft selections so the expectations are a lot higher.

Marquez has shown exceptional ability however he is a undrafted gem. Remember it took Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead adequate time to develop. I'd hate for Callaway to lose confidence at such a young age.

We'll see.

And believe that was Smash's point, that Marques Colston was selected at the end of the draft and yet Sean was forced to coach him up and look at the results...

Sean has got to get over this aversion to playing rookies with meaningful playing time - spend more time coaching, and less in the scouting offices, front office...


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