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K Major 11-02-2021 05:16 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 933630)
I called Mike but he never returned my call. :roflmao:
Wow.

"Can't call Mike" :(.

K Major 11-02-2021 05:21 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933628)
I don’t think he’s coming back any time soon. He’s four months post-surgery and the silence on that front is deafening.
Gotcha.

Draft 2 WR's in 2022 ;). And I don't mean in the 5th, 6th rounds either.

AsylumGuido 11-02-2021 05:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933628)
I don’t think he’s coming back any time soon. He’s four months post-surgery and the silence on that front is deafening.
Do you suppose that Payton would want to broadcast his return to upcoming opponents? It wouldn't surprise me if he's playing Sunday.

ChrisXVI 11-02-2021 05:33 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933637)
Do you suppose that Payton would want to broadcast his return to upcoming opponents? It wouldn't surprise me if he's playing Sunday.
He’s going to have to practice so we’ll find out more as the week goes on. He hasn’t been activated from the PUP list yet and I assume they’ll do that well in advance to get him up to speed.

AsylumGuido 11-02-2021 05:41 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933641)
He’s going to have to practice so we’ll find out more as the week goes on. He hasn’t been activated from the PUP list yet and I assume they’ll do that well in advance to get him up to speed.
I believe he came off PUP following week six. We'll see tomorrow in the first practice report.

ChrisXVI 11-02-2021 06:04 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933642)
I believe he came off PUP following week six. We'll see tomorrow in the first practice report.
I think that was the COVID list. The whole thing is just kind of strange.

AsylumGuido 11-02-2021 06:13 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933646)
I think that was the COVID list. The whole thing is just kind of strange.
Don't think so. PUP is strictly six weeks. You either come off or go to season ending IR I believe. He came off the COVID list earlier.

Rsanders24 11-02-2021 06:20 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933648)
Don't think so. PUP is strictly six weeks. You either come off or go to season ending IR I believe. He came off the COVID list earlier.
Thomas is officially still on the PUP list. He came off the COVID-19 list two weeks ago.

SaintGnome 11-02-2021 06:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 933615)
Found this after my initial post.

This report states Vannett is scheduled for a Week 9 (this weekend) return. I'm not sure how accurate this is though.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/...ints/injuries/
Holy crap that's one of the longest IR list I've ever seen.

ChrisXVI 11-02-2021 06:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933648)
Don't think so. PUP is strictly six weeks. You either come off or go to season ending IR I believe. He came off the COVID list earlier.
I had to look it up because I wasn’t really sure what the rule is. It looks like the player must sit out six weeks and then teams have a five week window to activate said player.

If my math adds up, that means Mike has three weeks to start practicing or he’ll be shut down for the year. Glad you got me to look that up because I didn’t have much clarity on the situation.

ChrisXVI 11-02-2021 07:19 PM
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Maybe in the offseason.

jeanpierre 11-02-2021 07:43 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933642)
I believe he came off PUP following week six. We'll see tomorrow in the first practice report.
Believe it's like Reserve, Injured, there's a Designation to Return, then there's like a 3 week window...

Now as AG astutely suggested, Sean's gamemanship factored, Saints could DTR, then MT might play that week...

ChrisXVI 11-02-2021 07:52 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I don’t think Mike’s coming back; not this season at least. I think there’s some real mental health issues there. His decision-making this year was bizarre. He has three weeks to start practicing again or he isn’t eligible to return and there hasn’t been the slightest intimation that he’s ready to go.

jnormand 11-02-2021 08:08 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933662)
I don’t think Mike’s coming back; not this season at least. I think there’s some real mental health issues there. His decision-making this year was bizarre. He has three weeks to start practicing again or he isn’t eligible to return and there hasn’t been the slightest intimation that he’s ready to go.
This. I think he got so full of himself that he actually caused brain damage.

RailBoss 11-02-2021 08:18 PM
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You just might be right ChrisXVI

Saints explored trade for Browns WR Odell Beckham Jr.
Saints discussed a trade for Cleveland Browns wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. but weren’t able to reach a deal.

Boston Saint 11-02-2021 08:37 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933662)
I don’t think Mike’s coming back; not this season at least. I think there’s some real mental health issues there. His decision-making this year was bizarre. He has three weeks to start practicing again or he isn’t eligible to return and there hasn’t been the slightest intimation that he’s ready to go.
I posted a week or so ago that it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t play again this year. Guido gave me 10:1 odds 😜

K Major 11-02-2021 08:39 PM
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"Can't call Mike"?

I remember Coach Johnson had an interview a few weeks ago stating that Mike was "close", but hell that seemed like ages ago.

jnormand 11-02-2021 08:41 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 933668)
You just might be right ChrisXVI

Saints explored trade for Browns WR Odell Beckham Jr.
Saints discussed a trade for Cleveland Browns wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. but weren’t able to reach a deal.
OBJ=Douchebag

He can't even beat up a kicking net.

K Major 11-02-2021 08:53 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 933672)
I posted a week or so ago that it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t play again this year. Guido gave me 10:1 odds 😜
You may be spot on Boston. Nick Underhill's last comment on Mike's availability was ... "it could be a while" :rolleyes:. That doesn't sound promising at all.

Saints should make a call in the off-season to Seattle and offer "Can't call Mike" for Russ Wilson. I'd be cool with that one. It ain't like he's helping us win games.

There's always the draft & Free Agency for adding another WR ...

lee909 11-02-2021 08:56 PM
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I don't think we see Mike in a Saints jersey again to be honest. They'll get pennies on the pound trading him in the offseason. With a post June 1st tag they can free up nearly 16ml on salary next year though you eat 9ml in dead money. Don't think we hear the true stories till a trade or cut happens next year. Might get lucky with a team like the Eagles(multiple 1sts)wanting a proven pass catcher who might be willing to trade. I just don't see him here,not sure he wants to be either.

Boston Saint 11-02-2021 09:27 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 933676)
You may be spot on Boston. Nick Underhill's last comment on Mike's availability was ... "it could be a while" :rolleyes:. That doesn't sound promising at all.

Saints should make a call in the off-season to Seattle and offer "Can't call Mike" for Russ Wilson. I'd be cool with that one. It ain't like he's helping us win games.

There's always the draft & Free Agency for adding another WR ...
I won’t make predictions, but I’d like that trade. Wilson would do well in the Dome with Payton.

Rsanders24 11-02-2021 11:34 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 933678)
I won’t make predictions, but I’d like that trade. Wilson would do well in the Dome with Payton.
That trade will never happen. First, Seattle would need draft capital and a player. Then, I don’t see the benefit of trading for Thomas when they already have DK and Lockett. They will definitely want more.

Boston Saint 11-03-2021 04:40 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 933687)
That trade will never happen. First, Seattle would need draft capital and a player. Then, I don’t see the benefit of trading for Thomas when they already have DK and Lockett. They will definitely want more.
Probably not. Like I said, I wasn’t making a prediction.

ChrisXVI 11-03-2021 07:37 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Mike ain’t coming back.

K Major 11-03-2021 07:44 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
In the Off-season ...

Mike could be gone.

ChrisXVI 11-03-2021 07:48 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 933690)
In the Off-season ...

Mike could be gone.
Have people forgotten how severe Payton’s doghouse is?? Brandin Cooks was traded and vilified for implying in a tweet that he wanted the ball more. After what Michael Thomas has pulled this year he’s as good as gone.

K Major 11-03-2021 07:56 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
High ankle sprains can be tricky. Set back (maybe rushed back) for sure. The medical team will shut him down in 2021.

Unfortunate.

iceshack149 11-03-2021 09:40 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 933691)
Have people forgotten how severe Payton’s doghouse is?? Brandin Cooks was traded and vilified for implying in a tweet that he wanted the ball more. After what Michael Thomas has pulled this year he’s as good as gone.
It sucks how his trade value has diminished. If only the Saints knew then what hey know now.:disgust:

vpheughan 11-03-2021 11:10 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 933637)
Do you suppose that Payton would want to broadcast his return to upcoming opponents? It wouldn't surprise me if he's playing Sunday.
:rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rolleyes:

jeanpierre 11-03-2021 09:03 PM
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jeanpierre 11-03-2021 09:04 PM
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Nine, Rev. 9.1 (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill *LP, 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram (Trade/HOU), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021) *LP, 33 - Lamar Miller (PS 2021)

FB (2) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)

WR-X (1) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 17 - Kevin White (PS 2021), 13 - Michael Thomas (ACTIVE/PUP)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021) *DNP, 1 - Marquez Callaway

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *LP, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

LG (2) 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 66 - Forrest Lamp (PS 2021), 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021)

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2021)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Jordan Mills (FA 2021)

TE (2) 82 - Adam Trautman, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (FA 2021), 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021), 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)

NT (3) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (FA 2021), 95 - Albert Huggins (PS/UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 52 - Montravius Adams (FA 2021), 91 - Josiah Bronson (PS/UDFA 2021)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson *DNP, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28) *LP

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun

RCB (1) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *FP, 36 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 35 - KeiVarae Russell (PS UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins *DNP, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 6 - Brian Johnson (FA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris *OUT


53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 23; Defense: 26; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

3 - Wil Lutz

77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

73 - Ethan Greenidge

81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021) *DTR

42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) *DTR

21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

75 - Andrus Peat

2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021)


Reserve/Covid19

84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)


Reserve/Retired

80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 11-03-2021 09:15 PM
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jeanpierre 11-03-2021 09:20 PM
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jeanpierre 11-03-2021 11:05 PM
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jeanpierre 11-05-2021 08:26 AM
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jeanpierre 11-05-2021 08:29 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Nine, Rev. 9.2 (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill *FP, 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram (Trade/HOU), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021) *FP, 33 - Lamar Miller (PS 2021)

FB (2) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)

WR-X (1) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 17 - Kevin White (PS 2021), 13 - Michael Thomas (ACTIVE/PUP)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021) *OUT, 1 - Marquez Callaway

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *LP, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

LG (1) 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 66 - Forrest Lamp (PS 2021), 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021)

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Jordan Mills (FA 2021)

TE (2) 82 - Adam Trautman, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (FA 2021), 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021), 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)

NT (3) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 70 - Christian Ringo (FA 2021), 95 - Albert Huggins (PS/UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 52 - Montravius Adams (FA 2021), 91 - Josiah Bronson (PS/UDFA 2021)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28) *Questionable, 96 - Carl Granderson *OUT

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun

RCB (1) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *FP, 36 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 35 - KeiVarae Russell (PS UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins *Questionable, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 6 - Brian Johnson (FA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 23; Defense: 26; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 16


Reserve/Injured

89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

3 - Wil Lutz

77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

73 - Ethan Greenidge

81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021) *DTR

42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021) *DTR

21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021)

75 - Andrus Peat

2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021)


Reserve/Covid19

84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)


Reserve/Retired

80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 11-05-2021 03:28 PM
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jeanpierre 11-05-2021 03:29 PM
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K Major 11-05-2021 03:40 PM
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Malcolm Jenkins and Payton Turner are questionable ... dang.

If MJ can't go, who covers Pitts? He's been Ryan's #1, 2 option so far this season.

ChrisXVI 11-06-2021 09:31 AM
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Three Saints scouts in attendance to watch the big QB matchup today.


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