2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

rezburna · 07-16-2021, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Read that stat and I laughed at it then...

Like saying who was the first NFL player to score a defensive 2pt conversion and nearly Defensive Rookie of the Year - Stephone Anthony...

Gardner at SS would have made this secondary last season...

And if Malcolm Jenkins has the opportunity to defend 10+ passes, that tells you offenses don't respect him...

CJG had 13 passes defensed.

Jenkins was far from elite last year, but he was decent. I personally like him as that extra linebacker on passing downs.

FinSaint · 07-16-2021, 02:46 AM

I have to agree with Rugs and AG on Ruiz and McCoy.

I remember there having been talk about SP having been unsatisfied with how McCoy handled his responsibilities at center during his rookie season. This lead to the pick of Ruiz as he was a standout college center.

Ruiz was dealing with an injury during TC, which limited his exposure to being able to practice playing at center, and perhaps most importantly, he wasn't able to build a working bond with the QBs, which I'd assume is important for a center.

I don't know how much better McCoy did with his center's responsibilities this past season, but clearly Ruiz had problems reaching his potential during his rookie season.

It would probably be better if Ruiz moved to his natural position at center and McCoy moved over to guard where he had success at the college level.

Halo · 07-16-2021, 09:23 AM

Here we go.... how long will David Onyemata be suspended?
How long will Marshawn Lattimore be suspended?

Defense "Ain't dere no more!" coming soon??

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2021, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So you're incapable of making a criticism of Sean Payton?

I'm sure at some point or another I have had critical thoughts about something acquainted with Sean Payton, but there is honestly nothing that comes to mind at this time. There is nothing to be gained by holding onto criticisms so I don't even try, especially when it involves someone I like and respect.

jeanpierre · 07-16-2021, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm sure at some point or another I have had critical thoughts about something acquainted with Sean Payton, but there is honestly nothing that comes to mind at this time. There is nothing to be gained by holding onto criticisms so I don't even try, especially when it involves someone I like and respect.

So you can't come up with even one criticism?

Rugby Saint II · 07-17-2021, 10:52 AM

I had to make sure that I wasn't on SR with how this thread has devolved into an argument over someone's views that are valid to them. Stop the finger pointing and have an intelligent discussion boys. In the words of Rodney King "why can't we all just get along?" Everyone has an opinion and if we disagree then maybe we can all do it without attacking fellow members character. Who Dat!

jeanpierre · 07-17-2021, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I had to make sure that I wasn't on SR with how this thread has devolved into an argument over someone's views that are valid to them. Stop the finger pointing and have an intelligent discussion boys. In the words of Rodney King "why can't we all just get along?" Everyone has an opinion and if we disagree then maybe we can all do it without attacking fellow members character. Who Dat!

Wouldn't know, never been on Saints Report...

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2021, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So you can't come up with even one criticism?

No I can't. Why should I? My life doesn't revolve around criticizing people I like and respect. What part of that simple concept can you not comprehend?

Geez!

jeanpierre · 07-18-2021, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No I can't. Why should I? My life doesn't revolve around criticizing people I like and respect. What part of that simple concept can you not comprehend?

Geez!

Just allowing you to continue to make my point...

jeanpierre · 07-18-2021, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

CJG had 13 passes defensed.

Jenkins was far from elite last year, but he was decent. I personally like him as that extra linebacker on passing downs.

I'd rather have the linebacker as much as the nickel is better suited to face 3WR sets...

07-16-2021, 02:01 AM	#461
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Read that stat and I laughed at it then... Like saying who was the first NFL player to score a defensive 2pt conversion and nearly Defensive Rookie of the Year - Stephone Anthony... Gardner at SS would have made this secondary last season... And if Malcolm Jenkins has the opportunity to defend 10+ passes, that tells you offenses don't respect him... CJG had 13 passes defensed. Jenkins was far from elite last year, but he was decent. I personally like him as that extra linebacker on passing downs.

07-16-2021, 02:46 AM	#462
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook I have to agree with Rugs and AG on Ruiz and McCoy. I remember there having been talk about SP having been unsatisfied with how McCoy handled his responsibilities at center during his rookie season. This lead to the pick of Ruiz as he was a standout college center. Ruiz was dealing with an injury during TC, which limited his exposure to being able to practice playing at center, and perhaps most importantly, he wasn't able to build a working bond with the QBs, which I'd assume is important for a center. I don't know how much better McCoy did with his center's responsibilities this past season, but clearly Ruiz had problems reaching his potential during his rookie season. It would probably be better if Ruiz moved to his natural position at center and McCoy moved over to guard where he had success at the college level. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,720 Blog Entries: 45	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Here we go.... how long will David Onyemata be suspended? How long will Marshawn Lattimore be suspended? Defense "Ain't dere no more!" coming soon??

07-16-2021, 12:22 PM	#464
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre So you're incapable of making a criticism of Sean Payton? I'm sure at some point or another I have had critical thoughts about something acquainted with Sean Payton, but there is honestly nothing that comes to mind at this time. There is nothing to be gained by holding onto criticisms so I don't even try, especially when it involves someone I like and respect.

07-16-2021, 08:47 PM	#465
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm sure at some point or another I have had critical thoughts about something acquainted with Sean Payton, but there is honestly nothing that comes to mind at this time. There is nothing to be gained by holding onto criticisms so I don't even try, especially when it involves someone I like and respect. So you can't come up with even one criticism?

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07-17-2021, 10:52 AM	#466
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook I had to make sure that I wasn't on SR with how this thread has devolved into an argument over someone's views that are valid to them. Stop the finger pointing and have an intelligent discussion boys. In the words of Rodney King "why can't we all just get along?" Everyone has an opinion and if we disagree then maybe we can all do it without attacking fellow members character. Who Dat!

07-17-2021, 03:38 PM	#467
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I had to make sure that I wasn't on SR with how this thread has devolved into an argument over someone's views that are valid to them. Stop the finger pointing and have an intelligent discussion boys. In the words of Rodney King "why can't we all just get along?" Everyone has an opinion and if we disagree then maybe we can all do it without attacking fellow members character. Who Dat! Wouldn't know, never been on Saints Report...

07-17-2021, 04:11 PM	#468
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre So you can't come up with even one criticism? No I can't. Why should I? My life doesn't revolve around criticizing people I like and respect. What part of that simple concept can you not comprehend? Geez!

07-18-2021, 01:24 AM	#469
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No I can't. Why should I? My life doesn't revolve around criticizing people I like and respect. What part of that simple concept can you not comprehend? Geez! Just allowing you to continue to make my point...

07-18-2021, 01:25 AM	#470
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by rezburna CJG had 13 passes defensed. Jenkins was far from elite last year, but he was decent. I personally like him as that extra linebacker on passing downs. I'd rather have the linebacker as much as the nickel is better suited to face 3WR sets...

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