Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

A 6.70 3-cone time for a DE is insane.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

The CB’s I think merited 1st round consideration were gone yet 28th pick and from story line the Saints tried to move up but were locked out. Some of the LB’ers they were looking at are still there in the second round. I follow Saints as close as anybody and I have to agree with AG all the sideline GM’s know is what PR colllegiate and statistics that form their opinions which interesting conversation but in the end you might not like the choices and moves but I trust Sean Mickey and Jeff .... I like this pick ... never heard of him just goes too show.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

Honestly surprised we didn’t trade up for a needed position. I don’t like the pick but they obviously went with the bpa on their board. I know we are “just fans” but everyone sees the glaring needs we have. I just hope they fill these needs Friday. Hopefully everyone is wrong

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

"If you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting up there with them." BUDDY RYAN

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

It takes two to Tango. You can't trade up if no one is willing to trade down. If you draft strictly for need you will likely pass up better talent.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

I would have traded up and gone CB - didn't work out. Not going to complain about going with DE tho. Games are still won (and lost) up front.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

After sleeping on things...it’s still a head scratcher. I see the arguments and I’m not as “upset” as I was last night. I could, and hopefully am, be shown wrong, but the players “value” was not near the 28th pick he was selected at. Even if he ends up being defensive rookie of the year, the question will always exist of the likelihood of him have been there around pick number 60 as most had him slated and who they did not take.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

What gives you the idea that he would still be there at 60 or that he wasn't valued at 28? Something you read from others that really don't know either? These people that come up with these ranking do not have a whole staff that spends hundreds of hours researching these players. Nor do they have the opportunity to interview these players multiple times. According to Turner himself his agent told him to expect to be picked between 20 and 40 and that's just right where he went.

This is why I have always thought this pick prognostication business is meaningless. None of them have the access or the resources to fully know what they are doing and it simply results in the general public buying into their nonsense.

The only way to know a player's true draft value is to wait until he is drafted.

Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 

Hey now, I'm still one of the best NFL/CBS/ESPN NETWORK internet couch coaching GM's around :p