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AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 12:19 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 919478)
Guido doesn’t like it when people form opinions. He likes to blindly follow the facts. At least the ones he can cherry pick to make the Saints seem perfect in his mind.
Yup. Ya' gotta hate facts.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 12:20 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 919481)
I admit, I'm a bitter Saints fan but I can see Davenport balling out this season and another team will pick him up next year... just like Hendrickson.
At least we picked up his option so we have him at least through 2022. But, all the more reason to get another DE.

SmashMouth 04-30-2021 12:22 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 919481)
I admit, I'm a bitter Saints fan but I can see Davenport balling out this season and another team will pick him up next year... just like Hendrickson.
Fairpoint... a la Mark ingram. Both Ingram and Daveport are players we overspent on in terms of draft capital vs what we got in return on investment.

Turner may be our next Cameron Jordan. If you compare his bio vs that of the Penn St DE rated higher that went shortly after, you'd probably reach the very same conclusions, even without the benefit of the pre-craft scouting work the Saints put in.

K Major 04-30-2021 12:44 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
Whether Turner was the right player only time will tell, just like every draft pick, but the strategy was certainly a good one. Not to mention we have one if not the best def line coaches in the league.

I'm anxious to see what direction we move on Day 2 & 3 of the draft.

Boston Saint 04-30-2021 12:49 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 919479)
In my opinion you just gave a great reason for the pick. In a division with slow QB'S the Saints have huge, athletic monsters on the D-line. That's the recipe for winning and the Giants proved that when they kept the Patriots from having an undefeated season.
Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious.

st thomas 04-30-2021 12:51 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 919452)
Bottom line is it smells to me of Baptiste, Davenport and other “reaches” the team has taken on draft prospects that were surprise moves according to draft analysts. I felt good about Lattimore pick at the time. I don’t feel good about this one. Maybe I’m wrong and they hit on a Kamara.

The thing about Kamara , we moved up to get him in the 3rd round is not like moving up in the 1st rd that we all think Davenport should have made more waves. If Kamara was a bust had not made the team it would have been o well we didn’t loose 2 first rd picks , but Davenport is not a bust (Yet) I’ll determine that after this season.[emoji872]


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SmashMouth 04-30-2021 12:53 PM
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Sainters7 04-30-2021 01:00 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919459)
What makes you think Turner is a replacement for Davenport? I expect Davenport to be around for years and to be a force. Turner is filling Hendrickson's void, instead.
I've been high on Davenport his whole career ("if only he could stay healthy..") until mid last year. Dude finally put together a string of games...and did nothing. I think he's got a bit of that Johnathan Sullivan-vibe in the sense he just doesn't have that hunger or love for the game (at least Turner has the drive). I just don't see him getting to that next level I always envisioned him hitting until last season.

I'll happily be wrong though, I like your prediction better. I just don't see it happening at this point. Guess I just saw this move as the Saints trying to move on and admit they messed up in 2018 Draft (I know they picked up his option, but I see it more as a "one last chance" type move). We'll see how it all shakes out...

iceshack149 04-30-2021 01:02 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 919490)
Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious.
They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back!

Boston Saint 04-30-2021 01:04 PM
Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 919495)
They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back!
Maybe so. I don’t see that helping to slow Pitts down though.


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