UDFA Signings

The Dude · 05-02-2021, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game.

Exactly. Even more of a reason to have more bodies to step in if needed. Do you argue with your door knob when your internet service is interrupted?

K Major · 05-02-2021, 10:46 PM

Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

SmashMouth · 05-02-2021, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

But of course... as all rookies and UDFA. That's a given.

jeanpierre · 05-02-2021, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted.

If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get.

Reading that medicals (health and history) were very limited, inconsistent, or unavailable on many rated prospects for this draft...

Wonder if there really will be an investigation re: some teams got medicals on players upon request, but others teams didn't receive them at all...

Payton even made a post draft comment to the effect that for players on their board they chose they had clean bills of health on them...

This is where not having a combine really hurts, because when everyone is in one place, you can correct oversights of uneven flow of common information...

jeanpierre · 05-02-2021, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

We're likely carrying five to six wide receivers on the roster; this is how I'd rank 'em...

WR1 - Mike Thomas
WR2 - TreQuan Smith (best case for him)
WR3 - Marquez Callaway

Now, let me stop here and say this is based on actual experience; right now, Callaway looks to have the higher ceiling of the WR2, WR3...

WR4 - Deonte Harris

Because of Harris' role as KR/PR, believe we'll carry six WRs, so...

Then you got these guys...

19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)
83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021)
84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)
00 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)
00 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255)

So he's got to show enough to be in the top 2 or 3 of that third tier group...

Boston Saint · 05-03-2021, 12:57 AM

It wouldn’t surprise me if Winston has a good connection with Humphrey or someone else he had a lot of practice with doing backup reps.

K Major · 05-03-2021, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021)
84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense.

As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line.

SmashMouth · 05-03-2021, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense.

As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line.

Maybe he's learned since his days at Royal Stadium? He sure seems effective in the red zone.

SmashMouth · 05-03-2021, 09:37 AM

Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions.

Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups?

K Major · 05-03-2021, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions.

Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups?

Your camp beast perhaps?

05-02-2021, 10:18 PM	#31
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game. Exactly. Even more of a reason to have more bodies to step in if needed. Do you argue with your door knob when your internet service is interrupted? iceshack149 likes this.
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05-02-2021, 10:46 PM	#32
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: UDFA Signings Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible. Good luck to him. jeanpierre likes this.

05-02-2021, 11:04 PM	#33
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by K Major Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible. Good luck to him. But of course... as all rookies and UDFA. That's a given. jeanpierre and Rell&Gold like this.

05-02-2021, 11:29 PM	#34
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by K Major I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted. If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get. Reading that medicals (health and history) were very limited, inconsistent, or unavailable on many rated prospects for this draft... Wonder if there really will be an investigation re: some teams got medicals on players upon request, but others teams didn't receive them at all... Payton even made a post draft comment to the effect that for players on their board they chose they had clean bills of health on them... This is where not having a combine really hurts, because when everyone is in one place, you can correct oversights of uneven flow of common information...

05-02-2021, 11:37 PM	#35
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by K Major Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible. Good luck to him. We're likely carrying five to six wide receivers on the roster; this is how I'd rank 'em... WR1 - Mike Thomas WR2 - TreQuan Smith (best case for him) WR3 - Marquez Callaway Now, let me stop here and say this is based on actual experience; right now, Callaway looks to have the higher ceiling of the WR2, WR3... WR4 - Deonte Harris Because of Harris' role as KR/PR, believe we'll carry six WRs, so... Then you got these guys... 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021) 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021) 00 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021) 00 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255) So he's got to show enough to be in the top 2 or 3 of that third tier group...
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05-03-2021, 12:57 AM	#36
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: UDFA Signings It wouldn’t surprise me if Winston has a good connection with Humphrey or someone else he had a lot of practice with doing backup reps.

05-03-2021, 09:12 AM	#37
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by jeanpierre 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021) I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense. As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line.

05-03-2021, 09:30 AM	#38
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by K Major I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense. As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line. Maybe he's learned since his days at Royal Stadium? He sure seems effective in the red zone.

05-03-2021, 09:37 AM	#39
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: UDFA Signings Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions. Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups? iceshack149, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

05-03-2021, 09:39 AM	#40
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by SmashMouth Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions. Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups? Your camp beast perhaps?