UDFA Signings

SmashMouth · 05-02-2021, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Am I the only one confused by the lack of wr taken in the draft or in udfa?

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have?

I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years.

It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted.

SFIAH

Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid!

Boston Saint · 05-02-2021, 12:45 PM

That Stevie Scott is a beast at 6’ 2” 230. He may be a player.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-02-2021, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid!

The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round.

You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else.

I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays.

SFIAH

rezburna · 05-02-2021, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round.

You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else.

I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays.

SFIAH

I’m rooting for him. I went to South Alabama for a minute too. The program was brand new then, so it’s amazing to see them sending people to the league now.

The Dude · 05-02-2021, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have?

I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years.

It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted.

SFIAH

I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver.

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2021, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver.

Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game.

Rell&Gold · 05-02-2021, 08:24 PM

I think that South Alabama WR makes the team I think I see what Sean is doing I think. Him Deonte Harris I like it plus The Saints are good at finding small school offensive Talent

neugey · 05-02-2021, 09:33 PM

Too early to worry about the WR depth. Let's see what the June 1 cuts and preseason cuts in August might bring.

jeanpierre · 05-02-2021, 09:44 PM

Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys...

LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX)
WR Josh Imatorbhebhe, Illinois (JAX)
S Christian Uphoff, Illinois State (GB)
WR Antonio Nunn, Buffalo (ATL)
LB Paddy Fisher, Northwestern (CAR)

K Major · 05-02-2021, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys...

LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX)

I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted.

If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get.

05-02-2021, 12:43 PM	#21
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by voodooido Am I the only one confused by the lack of wr taken in the draft or in udfa? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have? I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years. It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted. SFIAH Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid!

05-02-2021, 12:45 PM	#22
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: UDFA Signings That Stevie Scott is a beast at 6’ 2” 230. He may be a player. dizzle88 likes this.

05-02-2021, 01:49 PM	#23
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by SmashMouth Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid! The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round. You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else. I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays. SFIAH

05-02-2021, 02:37 PM	#24
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round. You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else. I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays. SFIAH I’m rooting for him. I went to South Alabama for a minute too. The program was brand new then, so it’s amazing to see them sending people to the league now. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

05-02-2021, 02:40 PM	#25
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have? I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years. It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted. SFIAH I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver.
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05-02-2021, 06:59 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by The Dude I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver. Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game.

05-02-2021, 08:24 PM	#27
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: UDFA Signings I think that South Alabama WR makes the team I think I see what Sean is doing I think. Him Deonte Harris I like it plus The Saints are good at finding small school offensive Talent SmashMouth likes this.

05-02-2021, 09:33 PM	#28
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: UDFA Signings Too early to worry about the WR depth. Let's see what the June 1 cuts and preseason cuts in August might bring. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-02-2021, 09:44 PM	#29
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: UDFA Signings Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys... LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX) WR Josh Imatorbhebhe, Illinois (JAX) S Christian Uphoff, Illinois State (GB) WR Antonio Nunn, Buffalo (ATL) LB Paddy Fisher, Northwestern (CAR)

05-02-2021, 10:17 PM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: UDFA Signings Originally Posted by jeanpierre Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys... LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX) I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted. If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get. jeanpierre likes this.