Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport

AsylumGuido · 06-02-2021, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I don't buy the misfortune card, some people are just more injury prone than others, and Sean Payton seems to find them lol

If it was a single chronic injury I would agree. The broken thumb could happen to anyone. The elbow bone bruise was also unrelated. I'll give you the pedal toe sprains. That one happened twice two years apart. One would wonder about his footwear in those cases. He also had season ending Lisfranc surgery in 2019.

Audiotom · 06-05-2021, 12:33 PM

I can recall how many times people were saying “davenbust” last year after he made a great play.

There were bright moments and Hendriksen was taking a lot of the snaps too.

Marcus helps collapse the pocket and seal the edge even if he isn’t the one getting the glory stat

This year will be a bust out one and the coaches see his impact

Rugby Saint II · 06-05-2021, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

This year's defensive line is already better than last season's.

I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them.

Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play.

By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2021, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them.

Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play.

By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth.

I think you are overestimating Hendrickson's impact. He was usually in on passing downs playing opposite Cam. Whomever was in there on those downs should have had good sack production. We had 45 total sacks as a team. If we have 45 again this season (which we should) it means that Hendrickson's production was replaced. The sack should be looked at as a team stat instead of an individual stat. I'd much rather have a defense get 50 sacks with no player having more than eight, let's say, than a team with two players getting 15 sacks a piece, but only getting 40 total as a team.

BakoSaint · 06-06-2021, 01:47 AM

Don’t forget that football is a game of inches and when you play with measuring tape on peoples bodies not a football with the clock running nobody can beat davenport, turner, and that random unproductive backup de we just got from kc. If opposing quarterbacks take the time to review their measurables they will be intimidated. They will probably have the time to do that in the pocket.

saintsfan1976 · 06-06-2021, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them.

Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play.

By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth.

There's depth on the line now, you just haven't seen some of them in action.
Tuttle and Roach are good. Dalton was killing it in camp prior to his season ending injury. Beyond that, you have to be excited about the potential between Huggins, Neal and Bronson. And that's just the D tackles.

Rugby Saint II · 06-06-2021, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

There's depth on the line now, you just haven't seen some of them in action.
Tuttle and Roach are good. Dalton was killing it in camp prior to his season ending injury. Beyond that, you have to be excited about the potential between Huggins, Neal and Bronson. And that's just the D tackles.

I forgot about Dalton. He was impressive before going down. And I can't really argue about our depth even though it's mostly unproven. Huggins, Neal, and Bronson just might give us a good rotation at DT. Well said saintsfan!

jeanpierre · 06-09-2021, 12:25 PM

K Major · 06-09-2021, 12:40 PM

I'm a huge believer in Davenport the player but he must stay healthy in 2021.

06-02-2021, 12:55 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by dizzle88 I don't buy the misfortune card, some people are just more injury prone than others, and Sean Payton seems to find them lol If it was a single chronic injury I would agree. The broken thumb could happen to anyone. The elbow bone bruise was also unrelated. I'll give you the pedal toe sprains. That one happened twice two years apart. One would wonder about his footwear in those cases. He also had season ending Lisfranc surgery in 2019.

06-05-2021, 12:33 PM	#12
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport I can recall how many times people were saying “davenbust” last year after he made a great play. There were bright moments and Hendriksen was taking a lot of the snaps too. Marcus helps collapse the pocket and seal the edge even if he isn’t the one getting the glory stat This year will be a bust out one and the coaches see his impact

06-05-2021, 01:12 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 This year's defensive line is already better than last season's. I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them. Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play. By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth.
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06-05-2021, 02:06 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them. Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play. By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth. I think you are overestimating Hendrickson's impact. He was usually in on passing downs playing opposite Cam. Whomever was in there on those downs should have had good sack production. We had 45 total sacks as a team. If we have 45 again this season (which we should) it means that Hendrickson's production was replaced. The sack should be looked at as a team stat instead of an individual stat. I'd much rather have a defense get 50 sacks with no player having more than eight, let's say, than a team with two players getting 15 sacks a piece, but only getting 40 total as a team. saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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06-06-2021, 01:47 AM	#15
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Don’t forget that football is a game of inches and when you play with measuring tape on peoples bodies not a football with the clock running nobody can beat davenport, turner, and that random unproductive backup de we just got from kc. If opposing quarterbacks take the time to review their measurables they will be intimidated. They will probably have the time to do that in the pocket.
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06-06-2021, 08:37 AM	#16
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,549 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I can't argue with you about how good our D-line will be. There are a couple of things to remember though. That is just the starting D-line and not the valuable depth that made us so good the last few years. We have role players taking on more responsibilities. I was devastated that we traded Brown because he was the best run stopper we've had in some time. It's going to be tough to replace Hendrickson's production. They did draft a DE in the first round so they have that going for them. Did I mention how many UDFA's we have playing major snaps? That's not usuallya recipe for success. Also, my faith in Davenport is waning that he will ever be the impact player that I envisioned from watching him play. By the way, I'm tired of saying that Davenport will make us forget his cost of two first round picks and a fifth. There's depth on the line now, you just haven't seen some of them in action. Tuttle and Roach are good. Dalton was killing it in camp prior to his season ending injury. Beyond that, you have to be excited about the potential between Huggins, Neal and Bronson. And that's just the D tackles. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and shawnkytonk like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 There's depth on the line now, you just haven't seen some of them in action. Tuttle and Roach are good. Dalton was killing it in camp prior to his season ending injury. Beyond that, you have to be excited about the potential between Huggins, Neal and Bronson. And that's just the D tackles. I forgot about Dalton. He was impressive before going down. And I can't really argue about our depth even though it's mostly unproven. Huggins, Neal, and Bronson just might give us a good rotation at DT. Well said saintsfan!

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,064 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport I'm a huge believer in Davenport the player but he must stay healthy in 2021.