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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint Think about it. It will come to you. No. I want your reasoning. I've thought about it and don't get it. Call me naďve. Please spell it out....

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Old 06-15-2021, 04:31 PM   #41
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Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”

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Think about it. It will come to you.
No. I want your reasoning. I've thought about it and don't get it. Call me naďve. Please spell it out.

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Old 06-15-2021, 04:33 PM   #42
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Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”

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No. I want your reasoning. I've thought about it and don't get it. Call me naďve. Please spell it out.

No, figure it out. You won’t listen to reason anyway.
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:36 PM   #43
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No, figure it out. You won’t listen to reason anyway.
Is it something you are afraid to share? Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about. You want to debate subjects and are now not willing to try to express your argument? I don't get it. I am seriously confused. I first have to see reason to listen to it.

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Old 06-15-2021, 04:38 PM   #44
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Is it something you are afraid to share? Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about. You want to debate subjects and are now not willing to try to express your argument? I don't get it. I am seriously confused. I first have to see reason to listen to it.

I’m sure there are many here who got my point. Think about it a bit more with an open mind. It’s not that hard.
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:45 PM   #45
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I’m sure there are many here who got my point. Think about it a bit more with an open mind. It’s not that hard.
I have an open mind. Why can't you simply state what you mean? I'm not sh!ttin' you, Boston. I don't get what you mean. Is your point in some way controversial? Is that what you are trying to convey?

If you feel uncomfortable sharing it contact me via PM.
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Old 06-15-2021, 04:53 PM   #46
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I have an open mind. Why can't you simply state what you mean? I'm not sh!ttin' you, Boston. I don't get what you mean. Is your point in some way controversial? Is that what you are trying to convey?

If you feel uncomfortable sharing it contact me via PM.
I was using concrete examples of players like Smith, Owens, Dobler etc that did not seem to play the game with an abundance of maturity and professionalism as examples against your blanket statement that players are professionals, form brotherhoods, and shake off grudges.
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:09 PM   #47
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I was using concrete examples of players like Smith, Owens, Dobler etc that did not seem to play the game with an abundance of maturity and professionalism as examples against your blanket statement that players are professionals, form brotherhoods, and shake off grudges.
A few players that have been the extreme outliers. I get it. But, in what way do you tie Michael Thomas into being one of them?

I gave you an example of Steve Smith and his partner in the fight not holding a grudge and moving past it. Do you deny that?

Even Conrad Dobler said he has asked Merlin Olsen to move past that supposed grudge and in his own words, "let it go". I can share the article if you wish. Dobler was a maniac when he played. Undoubtedly. But what does that have to do with someone provoking a reaction from Thomas and somehow Thomas "holding a grudge that will impact the locker room"?

But, back to the subject, in life, do you naturally expect everyone to hold grudges and be hateful? Is that the norm?

Boston, people are forgiving by nature. Sure, there are extremely isolated cases, but every conflict absolutely does not ensure a future of conflict.

Do you not agree?

I proposed several questions, but the first I wish you to answer is ...

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Easy to answer. Yes, or No. Then you can move on to the others, if you wish.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:26 PM   #48
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Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”

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A few players that have been the extreme outliers. I get it. But, in what way do you tie Michael Thomas into being one of them?

I gave you an example of Steve Smith and his partner in the fight not holding a grudge and moving past it. Do you deny that?

Even Conrad Dobler said he has asked Merlin Olsen to move past that supposed grudge and in his own words, "let it go". I can share the article if you wish. Dobler was a maniac when he played. Undoubtedly. But what does that have to do with someone provoking a reaction from Thomas and somehow Thomas "holding a grudge that will impact the locker room"?

But, back to the subject, in life, do you naturally expect everyone to hold grudges and be hateful? Is that the norm?

Boston, people are forgiving by nature. Sure, there are extremely isolated cases, but every conflict absolutely does not ensure a future of conflict.

Do you not agree?

I proposed several questions, but the first I wish you to answer is ...

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Easy to answer. Yes, or No. Then you can move on to the others, if you wish.
I am not even going to try and assume what Thomas feels towards GJ and vice versa. Assumptions frequently get people in trouble. I know I still hold grudges against guys I’ve traded punches with in my life. I sure wouldn’t go after another user here who says they hope there is no bad blood between the two.

Yes or no, do you hope the bad blood between the two is over?
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Old 06-15-2021, 05:58 PM   #49
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I am not even going to try and assume what Thomas feels towards GJ and vice versa. Assumptions frequently get people in trouble. I know I still hold grudges against guys I’ve traded punches with in my life. I sure wouldn’t go after another user here who says they hope there is no bad blood between the two.

Yes or no, do you hope the bad blood between the two is over?
You need to go on Dancing With The Stars, Boston. You totally danced around and never answered a simple Yes or No. LOL!

But, I'll answer yours right now. Yes. I would never wish bad blood between anyone. It's made a non-issue because it has already been answered by both of them that there was none?

Now, You answer ... Yes or No.

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:49 PM   #50
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You need to go on Dancing With The Stars, Boston. You totally danced around and never answered a simple Yes or No. LOL!

But, I'll answer yours right now. Yes. I would never wish bad blood between anyone. It's made a non-issue because it has already been answered by both of them that there was none?

Now, You answer ... Yes or No.

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?
Your question has as much validity as if I asked you if you believe me
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